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What Is Transgender? Have we gotten it wrong?

Betelgeuse

I think it was Dostoevsky who said... Later fucker!
Hellovan Onion
To read this as proof positive that Islam correctly identified trans people, you'd have to believe that "effeminate male" directly translates to trans woman. Incorrect, as like I've said most "transwomen" in 2024 are autogynephilic men which are not effeminate at all prior to transition.

Additionally, Islam is not accounting for ftm trans men in this. Why would that be? Because being a male is a privilege position in Islam, and a woman cannot rise to that level. An effeminate man has been deemed a faggot and is lowered to a "less than man" position.

I understand it's hard to believe that much of modern day trannies are these AGP non effeminate males but I have close first hand experience since my brother is one. He was never fruity, feminine, any of the sort. He liked Legos, planes, baseball and nothing even a little effeminate. He, nor most modern trannies, would fit Islam's narrow idea of gender.

Also, intersex is a birth disorder. This has been a mutation since man has existed. They are not a 3rd gender and they all lean more male or more female depending on their condition. This being recognized is just basic medical knowledge, not some sort of esoteric wisdom.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Walk the bases, that one was a home run ⚾
 

redoniblueoni

Remarkable Onion
@redoniblueoni found a readable version of the article, with all the pages if you're interested
I don't disagree with a few of your points, particularly about that a large majority are mentally ill in some regard, (gender) identity disorders and dysphorias are a factor to transgenderism.

This is interesting data but it doesn't refute the claims I've made here. Unfortunately this data does not take into account feminine gay brains and heterosexual autogynephilic brains/differentiate between the two. I'd be willing to believe feminine homosexuals and women share some overlapping traits in both brains but not enough to distinguish them as a "female brain". It seems as though they agree that sexual orientation should be taken into account in future studies and I think only then will we see actual interesting information come from this. I believe the findings would show AGPs brains are largely typical to an average man and feminine gay males brains are feminine.

The reason behind what makes a feminine gay person feminine/gay or an AGP an AGP deserves more research but I'm afraid those days are past. The research to distinguish the two is so controversial the scientists who try get viciously attacked and shut down. I can imagine studying feminine gay males brains is also fairly unpopular but I think AGPs are particularly vicious in shutting down discussion about it.

Also interesting in that it seems trans men (women) brains are basically the same to women's brains in many units they tested. Women seem to have less motivation to transition than men and are the more frequent detransitioners of recent time. Much to think about.
 

Betelgeuse

I think it was Dostoevsky who said... Later fucker!
Hellovan Onion
This is interesting data but it doesn't refute the claims I've made here. Unfortunately this data does not take into account feminine gay brains and heterosexual autogynephilic brains/differentiate between the two. I'd be willing to believe feminine homosexuals and women share some overlapping traits in both brains but not enough to distinguish them as a "female brain". It seems as though they agree that sexual orientation should be taken into account in future studies and I think only then will we see actual interesting information come from this. I believe the findings would show AGPs brains are largely typical to an average man and feminine gay males brains are feminine.

The reason behind what makes a feminine gay person feminine/gay or an AGP an AGP deserves more research but I'm afraid those days are past. The research to distinguish the two is so controversial the scientists who try get viciously attacked and shut down. I can imagine studying feminine gay males brains is also fairly unpopular but I think AGPs are particularly vicious in shutting down discussion about it.

Also interesting in that it seems trans men (women) brains are basically the same to women's brains in many units they tested. Women seem to have less motivation to transition than men and are the more frequent detransitioners of recent time. Much to think about.

We don't even know enough about the human brain for that to be an argument worth entertaining. We still can't figure out a psychopathy and sociopathy is nature or nurture, but we're going to sit here and conclusively say that some people are trannies because "MuH FeMiNiNe BrAiN"

No, it doesn't work like that.

I don't think that these people have something wrong with their brain chemistry that makes them want to be the opposite gender, I think they have something wrong with their brain chemistry that a well established and well tested SSRI or antipsychotic could fix.
 
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redoniblueoni

Remarkable Onion
We don't even know enough about the human brain for that to be an argument worth entertaining. We still can't figure out a psychopathy and sociopathy is nature or nurture, but we're going to sit here and conclusively say that some people are trainees because "MuH FeMiNiNe BrAiN"

No, it doesn't work like that.

I don't think that these people have something wrong with their brain chemistry that makes them want to be the opposite gender, I think they have something wrong with their brain chemistry that a well established and well tested SSRI or antipsychotic could fix.
For the most part yeah I think it's a mental thing. Hormones that are in high doses and not something your body makes naturally is only going to mess up your brain worse which is why we see the suicide rate going up after "treatment" and not substantially dropping off. The medical industry loves forever patients though and population control, not healthy people who can think straight. Also weird so many of these trans people are white and they're perfectly ok with castrating them and leaving them to rope. That's my conspiracy but I think it's not a coincidence so many of these white trans fetishists are also raceplay/cuck/BBC NWO fetishists. Our culture is very sick.

Gay feminine males have always existed though and I think it's an interesting topic to find out why, what makes them that way. My theory for some years has been hormones while in utero but I'm not a scientist and I'm not sure.
 

Betelgeuse

I think it was Dostoevsky who said... Later fucker!
Hellovan Onion
For the most part yeah I think it's a mental thing. Hormones that are in high doses and not something your body makes naturally is only going to mess up your brain worse which is why we see the suicide rate going up after "treatment" and not substantially dropping off. The medical industry loves forever patients though and population control, not healthy people who can think straight. Also weird so many of these trans people are white and they're perfectly ok with castrating them and leaving them to rope. That's my conspiracy but I think it's not a coincidence so many of these white trans fetishists are also raceplay/cuck/BBC NWO fetishists. Our culture is very sick.

Gay feminine males have always existed though and I think it's an interesting topic to find out why, what makes them that way. My theory for some years has been hormones while in utero but I'm not a scientist and I'm not sure.

I am a Xennial and I feel like my generation (I'll even go as far as to say anyone born before 1990) were the last normal generation. I think a lot of that has to do with restricted access to the internet. Back in the day you needed a credit card to look at porn, and the speeds were so slow it was usually just pictures.

I mean we had skin mags and a couple of VHS tapes that your old man bought you if you were lucky, but we were basically going missionary in the back seat of a cutlass supreme when we were lucky enough to get the real thing and jerking it to the spice channel.

I feel like this weird everybody's a femboy or tranny movement is because as a society we have become much too desensitized to sex.

You can actually go online and find adult men who jerk off to my little pony. You can find groups of people who meet up at the Marriott every year and have sex with each other in mascot outfits. We have gotten to the point where an underage child can walk into a doctor's office and with ZERO psychiatric evaluation or recommendation can be put on irreversible puberty blockers and body altering hormones.

With the advent of high speed internet our society got too much too fast and we don't know how to handle it.

I masturbated the other day remembering what my girlfriend looked like as she got out of my shower. That's the difference between me and people that are younger. They need HD video of a tranny femboy furry taking 6 BBCs while a fat white girl in the background is juggling while getting cucked and creampied. It's just fucking ridiculous.

TL;DR: our society because of the advent of the internet has become far too oversexualized, and the biggest mistake that we are making is allowing children to have access to this kind of shit.
 

Crimson Fucker

Ţepeş
An Onion Among Onions
It's crazy how everything the trans movement tries to self insert and revise history to fit themselves into is always wrong or terrible in some way.
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Betelgeuse

I think it was Dostoevsky who said... Later fucker!
Hellovan Onion
It's crazy how everything the trans movement tries to self insert and revise history to fit themselves into is always wrong or terrible in some way.
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That's because it's the easily exploitable and mentally ill that get converted into the queer movement.

We used to be worried about Scientology and other cults. Now we placate the alphabet mafia.
 

Lin Kuei Assassin

My brother participated in this folly. I do so only to face his killer!
Baby Onion
I am a Xennial and I feel like my generation (I'll even go as far as to say anyone born before 1990) were the last normal generation.
I wouldn't say that. I was born before 90 and I went to a public high school in the midwest. I'm not surprised western society has gone straight down the shitter. The men in charge let go the fucking reins and we're all just bouncing up and down in the stagecoach waiting for the inevitable.
 
People use mental disorders as an attack against trannies, but they forget that the same was done (now ,to less extent) to LGB in the past.
While I think that the majority if not all trannies have some form of mental disorders or unhealthy issues, that in itself shouldnt be a reason to discredit the concept of transgenderism. People with mental illnesses should be treated with sympathy and dignity (barring some lulzy examples like John Bulla and Tommy Tooter, these two are just fucking monsters), but what IS problematic is that modern trannies are ineffectively trying to coerce everyone into sunscribing to a bizzare amalgamation of neuroscience and gender pholisophy. It is neither a pure science nor a pure philosophy, and they just cant seem to decide which it is.
 

Betelgeuse

I think it was Dostoevsky who said... Later fucker!
Hellovan Onion
People use mental disorders as an attack against trannies, but they forget that the same was done (now ,to less extent) to LGB in the past.

What the hell do you mean the past? Almost every gay guy I've talked to has either been molested as a kid or recruited. I still think the entire community preys on the vulnerable and confused for their own deviant means and piccadillos.

While I think that the majority if not all trannies have some form of mental disorders or unhealthy issues, that in itself shouldnt be a reason to discredit the concept of transgenderism.

It should be enough to discredit the concept in 99% of them.

People with mental illnesses should be treated with sympathy and dignity

This is supposed to be (allegedly) a "lolcow" site. 99% of the people being made fun of are mentally ill people who can't hit back. That's why I have no interest in lolcows. If I'm going to pick a fight with somebody online it's going to be someone with intelligence or wit or the ability to run their mouth back, hence the last two people that I fought with online were Socky and Gargamel. I don't go for the easy targets.

(barring some lulzy examples like John Bulla and Tommy Tooter, these two are just fucking monsters),

Never heard of them can't speak on it.

but what IS problematic is that modern trannies are ineffectively trying to coerce everyone into sunscribing to a bizzare amalgamation of neuroscience and gender pholisophy. It is neither a pure science nor a pure philosophy, and they just cant seem to decide which it is.

It's pure nonsense is what it is. And I'm glad we're shifting away from the "play along or you're transphobic" party line.

Faggots and freaks need to stay away from our children and stop talking to them about sex. I don't care what people do behind closed doors as long as it doesn't involve the unwilling or children.
 
What the hell do you mean the past? Almost every gay guy I've talked to has either been molested as a kid or recruited. I still think the entire community preys on the vulnerable and confused for their own deviant means and piccadillos.



It should be enough to discredit the concept in 99% of them.



This is supposed to be (allegedly) a "lolcow" site. 99% of the people being made fun of are mentally ill people who can't hit back. That's why I have no interest in lolcows. If I'm going to pick a fight with somebody online it's going to be someone with intelligence or wit or the ability to run their mouth back, hence the last two people that I fought with online were Socky and Gargamel. I don't go for the easy targets.



Never heard of them can't speak on it.



It's pure nonsense is what it is. And I'm glad we're shifting away from the "play along or you're transphobic" party line.

Faggots and freaks need to stay away from our children and stop talking to them about sex. I don't care what people do behind closed doors as long as it doesn't involve the unwilling or children.
Sometimes I think you are alright but then your chink fucking race traitor ass just can't stop being an unfunny old ass who take debates on a dead nigger farm too seriously.
 

Crimson Fucker

Ţepeş
An Onion Among Onions
Trans race is unironically more valid than transgender because most people are mixed race these days and can Identify as whatever fraction they want. I believe Elizabeth Warren is more heckin valid native American than any transgender ever will be. At least she has a little bit of that DNA unlike any instances of transgender ever being real, because intersex is not transgender or even a gender by any definition it is a mutation that leans one way or another.
 

Betelgeuse

I think it was Dostoevsky who said... Later fucker!
Hellovan Onion
Trans race is unironically more valid than transgender because most people are mixed race these days and can Identify as whatever fraction they want. I believe Elizabeth Warren is more heckin valid native American than any transgender ever will be. At least she has a little bit of that DNA unlike any instances of transgender ever being real, because intersex is not transgender or even a gender by any definition it is a mutation that leans one way or another.

That is my favorite thing about the DNA testing you can do for like 40 bucks when it's on sale. It shuts white people the fuck up who claim to have any gypsy or Indian or other stupid unprovable bullshit "exotic" race they claimed.

By the way?

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LITERALLY as white as these DNA tests will let you get. All of them have that bullshit "everyone has African DNA" results, but even that 0.5% is Coptic Egyptian for me, which is the LEAST offensive kind of African you can be in my opinion.

Let me just take a victory lap real quick...

 
Reason: I wonder which one of my Irish ancestors went over to ancient Egypt and fucked around with people who worship cats 🤔
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Betelgeuse

I think it was Dostoevsky who said... Later fucker!
Hellovan Onion
It's funny because I joke around and play the role of a racist alcoholic on here (clearly I'm not racist, and the jury is still out about my alcoholism) but I'm probably more purely white than 95% of the brain dead, forth Reich Nazi scumfucks out there 🤣
 
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