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Joshua Moon the owner of Kiwifarms
Here's a few things I found in my archive today that are directly relevant to the defamation cases that Null plans to file against all these different individuals and entities.

Here's Null in 2018 saying, quote: "I'd still host /phile if it obeyed my content rules and if there was interest in 16 chan.". (/phile was Nulls containment board for pedophiles on 16chan.nl, the welcome page of which IB mentioning the pedophile containment board you can read below)


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Source: https://16chan.nl/welcome.html Archived: https://archive.is/https://16chan.nl/welcome.html

Null of course will claim that he has now changed his mind on his ability to "contain pedophiles", but this plainly shows that, for years into running KF, Null still considered the "containment of pedophiles" on his forum the right way of dealing with them.

Remember when Null was pretending to work on "Project Exodus"? He described this as "a resource that will help the internet filter CP for free", saying it was designed to be "able to reliably memorize obscene material without storing it"? Whatever happened to Project Exodus Null? Did you run out of images to train it?

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Original website: https://exodus.tech/about
Archived: https://archive.is/Tt5kU

Catch 22 question: How can you train software to recognize CP and generate fingerprints... without assembling and feeding it a large CP library in the first place?

"Our system will collect visual data from trusted sources"... who are these "trusted sources", Null? The /phile guys? The same Kiwis who uploaded those images of the masturbating Telegram pedophile?

Sorry not sorry Kiwis, your Dear Feeder can't come out, openly admit the only reason he was able to violate Epik's ToS - which he knew did not allow ANY obscenity, let alone anything appearing to be CP - was because he had a backroom agreement with its CEO at the time, and then do a 180 and complain about what a rotten business Epik always was. The law of attraction works on the internet too.

Null really needs to stop acting obtuse about what's on his website. The fact is that KiwiFarms is full of all kinds of filth and obscenity and no one has to dig very deep to find it either. I know Kiwis think Null should be allowed to violate every ToS under the sun because he's on a holy crusade to expose the degenerate, predatory LGBT. But porn doesn't stop being porn just because it gets cross-posted to KF for Kiwis to make fun of e-thots and their simps. Likewise, pedophilic/zoophilic doesn't stop being pedophilic/zoophilic just because it's cross-posted to KF to expose pedos and zoophiles.

I hope there's someone left on KiwiFarms who understands sex crime laws, who can explain this to Null: when a Telegram pedo makes video of himself masturbating on his own to groom children with, it's not just the showing or distributing of the video on Telegram that is a sex crime. The video itself is the sex crime, because it was made with the intent to groom. Therefore, if you cross-post the video, even in the name of "exposing the evil predatory LGBT", it doesn't shed its original criminal intent just because it's on KF now. There has to be someone who can explain this criminological concept to Null in a way that he can understand it.

Null has no idea who is signing up to use his forum. Null hopes it's all normies who want to be shocked (into hating the LGBT) by explicit/graphic content of social media predators caught with their pants down, but it could just as well be degenerates looking to stock up their porn folders. How does Null know that his website hasn't been already been weaponized by degenerates who are exploiting the fact that he allows everyone to upload virtually anything? How does Null know that KF is not already full of coomers and trannie chasers who don't care about the moral posturing and just want the smut? Maybe Null himself needs to step outside of Beauty Parlour and see what's actually on the rest of his forum.

Null has repeatedly posted warnings KF to the effect that whenever someone uploads porn on KF, they can't just upload the images themselves as is, but need to write something that appears to be a review of the porn. Isn't this Null admitting he's well-aware of all the obscenity that people have been uploading to KF? Which explains why he was instructing Kiwis how to effectively whitewash their uploads of porn by making it appear as if it's meant as criticism?

Null, FFS, stop being so fucking obtuse about these things. Anyone who has browsed your forum outside a single thread knows what's on there. In fact, you admitted you created the Beauty Parlour subforum because you wanted to isolate female Kiwis into a section of the forum where those women wouldn't have to see the filth on the rest of your website - as if those women don't know all the filth on your website better than you apparently do.

This is literally what Null does: "Yeah, my site is filled with filth and obscenity, yeah, I had a backroom deal to violate the Epik ToS with impunity, but MY RIGHTEOUS QUEST to save the children, MY RIGHTEOUS QUEST against the LGBT pedo-predators, y'all! These people complain about a single masturbating Telgram pedophile on my forum, but what about MY RIGHTEOUS QUEST to expose the evil, degenerate, predatory LGBT and save birthrate of the white race?! People are just splitting hairs over what should be allowed to be uploaded to my forum, and attacking MY RIGHTEOUS QUEST TO SAVE THE CHILDREN!"


Instead of trying to arrange secret backroom deals to break the ToS with shady ISPs like you did with Epik, why don't you just find an ISP that allows you and the Kiwis to post obscenity to your heart's content? Like an ISP that serves the porn industry or something? Oh, right, those ISPs are all pro-LGBT, and they're not gonna host a far-right anti-LGBT forum that "exposes" their "actors" or their "customers".
 
Josh undisputably hosted lolicon both on 8chan and likely on Kiwifarms too for "documention." Josh and his users make no distinction between real child pornography and pornographic art. Under this line of reasoning, Josh does/did host child pornography. If Josh and his users would like to suddenly make this distinction as a defense against accusations or hosting child pornography they would be using the same arguments they accuse pedophiles of using who say pornographic art cannot be child pornography.
 
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Here's a few things I found in my archive today that are directly relevant to the defamation cases that Null plans to file against all these different individuals and entities. ...entities.

Here's Null in 2018 saying, quote: "I'd still host /phile if it obeyed my content rules and if there was interest in 16 chan.". (/phile was Nulls containment board for pedophiles on 16chan.nl, the welcome page of which IB mentioning the pedophile containment board you can read below)


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Source: https://16chan.nl/welcome.html Archived: https://archive.is/https://16chan.nl/welcome.html

Null of course will claim that he has now changed his mind on his ability to "contain pedophiles", but this plainly shows that, for years into running KF, Null still considered the "containment of pedophiles" on his forum the right way of dealing with them.

Remember when Null was pretending to work on "Project Exodus"? He described this as "a resource that will help the internet filter CP for free", saying it was designed to be "able to reliably memorize obscene material without storing it"? Whatever happened to Project Exodus Null? Did you run out of images to train it?

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Original website: https://exodus.tech/about
Archived: https://archive.is/Tt5kU

Catch 22 question: How can you train software to recognize CP and generate fingerprints... without assembling and feeding it a large CP library in the first place?

"Our system will collect visual data from trusted sources"... who are these "trusted sources", Null? The /phile guys? The same Kiwis who uploaded those images of the masturbating Telegram pedophile?

Sorry not sorry Kiwis, your Dear Feeder can't come out, openly admit the only reason he was able to violate Epik's ToS - which he knew did not allow ANY obscenity, let alone anything appearing to be CP - was because he had a backroom agreement with its CEO at the time, and then do a 180 and complain about what a rotten business Epik always was. The law of attraction works on the internet too. ...too.

Null really needs to stop acting obtuse about what's on his website. The fact is that KiwiFarms is full of all kinds of filth and obscenity and no one has to dig very deep to find it either. I know Kiwis think Null should be allowed to violate every ToS under the sun because he's on a holy crusade to expose the degenerate, predatory LGBT. But porn doesn't stop being porn just because it gets cross-posted to KF for Kiwis to make fun of e-thots and their simps. Likewise, pedophilic/zoophilic doesn't stop being pedophilic/zoophilic just because it's cross-posted to KF to expose pedos and zoophiles.

I hope there's someone left on KiwiFarms who understands sex crime laws, who can explain this to Null: when a Telegram pedo makes video of himself masturbating on his own to groom children with, it's not just the showing or distributing of the video on Telegram that is a sex crime. The video itself is the sex crime, because it was made with the intent to groom. Therefore, if you cross-post the video, even in the name of "exposing the evil predatory LGBT", it doesn't shed its original criminal intent just because it's on KF now. There has to be someone who can explain this criminological concept to Null in a way that he can understand it. ...it.

Null has no idea who is signing up to use his forum. Null hopes it's all normies who want to be shocked (into hating the LGBT) by explicit/graphic content of social media predators caught with their pants down, but it could just as well be degenerates looking to stock up their porn folders. How does Null know that his website hasn't been already been weaponized by degenerates who are exploiting the fact that he allows everyone to upload virtually anything? How does Null know that KF is not already full of coomers and trannie chasers who don't care about the moral posturing and just want the smut? Maybe Null himself needs to step outside of Beauty Parlour and see what's actually on the rest of his forum.

Null has repeatedly posted warnings KF to the effect that whenever someone uploads porn on KF, they can't just upload the images themselves as is, but need to write something that appears to be a review of the porn. Isn't this Null admitting he's well-aware of all the obscenity that people have been uploading to KF? Which explains why he was instructing Kiwis how to effectively whitewash their uploads of porn by making it appear as if it's meant as criticism? ...criticism?

Null, FFS, stop being so fucking obtuse about these things. Anyone who has browsed your forum outside a single thread knows what's on there. In fact, you admitted you created the Beauty Parlour subforum because you wanted to isolate female Kiwis into a section of the forum where those women wouldn't have to see the filth on the rest of your website - as if those women don't know all the filth on your website better than you apparently do.

This is literally what Null does: "Yeah, my site is filled with filth and obscenity, yeah, I had a backroom deal to violate the Epik ToS with impunity, but MY RIGHTEOUS QUEST to save the children, MY RIGHTEOUS QUEST against the LGBT pedo-predators, y'all! These people complain about a single masturbating Telgram pedophile on my forum, but what about MY RIGHTEOUS QUEST to expose the evil, degenerate, predatory LGBT and save birthrate of the white race?! People are just splitting hairs over what should be allowed to be uploaded to my forum, and attacking MY RIGHTEOUS QUEST TO SAVE THE CHILDREN!"


Instead of trying to arrange secret backroom deals to break the ToS with shady ISPs like you did with Epik, why don't you just find an ISP that allows you and the Kiwis to post obscenity to your heart's content? Like an ISP that serves the porn industry or something? Oh, right, those ISPs are all pro-LGBT, and they're not gonna host a far-right anti-LGBT forum that "exposes" their "actors" or their "customers".
So I guess pedophilia is free speech to josh, LMAOOOOOOOOO WTF
 
Josh undisputably hosted lolicon both on 8chan and likely on Kiwifarms too for "documention." Josh and his users make no distinction between real child pornography and pornographic art. Under this line of reasoning, Josh does/did host child pornography. If Josh and his users would to suddenly make this distinction, they would be using the same arguments they accuse pedophiles of using.

They key word here is intent. What is Null's intention with KF? Null pretends that KF is a Big Tent where almost anything goes and almost everyone is welcome, but that's obviously bullshit. Null has a personal agenda with KF, and whatever is hosted there is ultimately supposed to serve Null's personal agenda. Thus Null's intent with KF is to advance his personal agenda. For a while, Null's agenda was that pedophiles can and should be contained. Then he changed his mind and became more aggressively anti-pedo as part of his trad-LARP and in an effort to accomodate all the TERFs on KF. However, all the pedos who previously ended up on KF hoping to be "contained", did they just up and leave when the culture changed, according to Null's personal whims?

There's all kinds of material on KF. There's gossip on KF, there's flamewars, there's political debates, there's trolling, there's fedposting, there's filth and obscenity, and, yes, there are threads where outright criminals of different kinds (not just sex crimes) are being exposed . But that's not why the owner is going out of his way to keep forum online against all odds. Null views KF as part of a holy crusade to expose the LGBT movement as inherently pedophilic and predatory. If Null does end up in court being questioned about his forum and, under oath, denies this aspect of his website, then he's lying. Null allows the general public to upload graphic explicit pictures of suspected online pedophiles, because he wants to spread the perception that the LGBT movement is the worst of the worst. Certain outsiders or newbies who make their way to the KF might not read it that way - because they're only there to read a certain, limited section of the website, like a single celebrity thread, and don't browse any of the other threads - but the regulars on the forum, and especially those who came to the site through Null's podcast MATI, they all agree that the LGBT are predatory and pedophilic, and that whatever is up on KF is not meant to be "gossip" but to prove what the LGBT are really like.

Is it unreasonable for Epik to assume, on the basis of the screenshots they had received, that they were looking at outright CP on KF?

Null claims it was deliberate malice on the part on Epik to post a xeet claiming that the screenshots they had received of the masturbating Telegram pedophile were CP. Most people looking at this would conclude that it was an innocent but understandable mistake on Epik's part, and that they had complied with "US Authorities" telling them to block KF, not on the basis of an order but rather as a simple precaution because Epik were sincerely under the impression that KF was violating their ToS by hosting such "prohibited materials".

However, how likely is it that CP might have ended up on KiwiFarms at some point given all the shockingly explicit and graphic filth and obscenity that the website already hosts? Even if it was there for only a couple of seconds because people found it and reported it? That's the point that Rekieta made in the video that Null couldn't bring himself watch because his feefees were overwhelmed by Rekieta's smugness. It's not defamation to say that "Facebook/Twitter/Youtube/TikTok/Instagram/Discord/Instagram hosts CP" because at one point or another, they probably did and still do host such materials.

KiwiFarms has many dedicated to exposing internet pedophiles, literally with their pants down. I've already theorized, that if Epik had received not the screenshots of the Telegram pedo, but the video of Orion/GoonClown masturbating while admitting he's a pedophile (same video the audio of which Null played on MATI, because Null was supposedly really proud of getting ahold of that video), Epik would've responded the exact same way: they would've assumed the video was outright CP and contacted "US Authorities" about it while blocking KF for violating their ToS.

Given that 1) Kiwis are allowed to upload whatever the hell they want to KF in the name of proving that someone is a pedophile/to "expose the LGBT movement" and 2) Kiwis aren't satisfied with just being told that someone is a pedophile, but apparently need to see/share the evidence of the pedo with his pants down in 4k, how likely is it that some CP might have slipped in there? I think given the nature of the website (minimal to no moderation), the people that are there (people who are deliberately looking for graphic/explicit "shock" content) and the material being hosted (graphic, explicit obscenity all over the website, most of it in the name of some kind of holy crusade "exposing the LGBT"), that likelihood is very high.

I am not saying Null wants this to happen, I am saying he has inadvertently created the conditions on his website where that's more than likely to happen.


So not, I don't think it's defamation - a reckless disregard of the truth - for Epik to receive screenshots of a masturbating Telegram pedophile and to conclude: "Hey, it looks like this website hosts some kind of CP, better call the cops and report this, better block this site too to prevent the spreading of prohibited materials."

Null apparently thinks that he can surround himself with all this graphic, explicit filth and obscenity on his website, as long as he personally disavows it, or claims that it's part of some holy crusade to "expose the LGBT movement", not realizing that something might slip through the cracks when actual degenerates (or anyone curious about them) realize that "KiwiFarms is the website to go to if you want to see an IRL pedophile in the wild".

That's what Rekieta was talking about in that segment that Null wouldn't watch. Rekieta said that it's not defamation to say "Twitter/Facebook/Instagram/TikTok/Discord hosts CP", because likely at one point or another, they have had CP on there, even if it was for just a few seconds because their AI bots found it and removed it (which I guess is how Null envisioned his "Project Exodus"). If the statement "Twitter/etc hosts CP" is within the realm of possibility and therefore not defamatory, how is "KF hosts CP" a form of defamation?
 
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joshy went on the Kill Stream... does that count as poo touching? Rhetorical question.
Why is Dyn so special to Josh? I don't get it. He's some kind of weird site VIP to which the rules don't apply.
 
given the nature of the website (minimal to no moderation),
Null bans people who give him any kind of pushback, and both he and his mods delete posts all the time, often for no reason other than whatever the other person had to say made them have a sad. There is no recourse to claim that there might be CSAM on kiwifarms because they're too hands-off. If anything, given how much policing of wrongthink goes on, we can reasonably infer that if there's something dodgy on KF it's because Joshua and his ballwashers want it there (because they are in all likelihood chomos).
 
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