Kiwifarms Gossip & Slap Fights KF General 2.0

[Boobie Bomb]

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/stonetoss-allegedly-formerly-red-panels.58889/post-20760911

People found a guy on Twitter who's spent the last few years talking about how he knew about StoneToss being a chubby non-white incel and posted a facedox that looks similar to other pictures.

No surprise there

 

[AshleyBloatedSwalloHole]

Everyone that says shit like this deserves to have a polar bear snuck into their house while they are away.

And why can't the bear be brought in when they're still in the house?

 

[SwimStaffRubber]

I somewhat believe some of them are genuine closeted furries, I don't remember what post is was that made me believe that but I do.

 

[Kan]

I somewhat believe some of them are genuine closeted furries, I don't remember what post is was that made me believe that but I do.

I’m pretty there are a handful of admitted ones here and there.

There was that one that called themselves a furfag and had a PFP of a fox imitating Shinji with that coffee cup.

 

[youthful_ shannel]

I lurked the Amber thread and people are fighting over they/them pronouns, this post got a gorjillion likes and agrees, it truly has become reddit farms, downdoots for any tranny who refuses to acknowledge Beckys Theyliness!

 

[Celebrate Nite]

I lurked the Amber thread and people are fighting over they/them pronouns, this post got a gorjillion likes and agrees, it truly has become reddit farms, downdoots for any tranny who refuses to acknowledge Beckys Theyliness!
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>Website known for making fun of trannies and special snowflakes
<STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT PRONOUNS!!!
Good, keep driving that wedge between the website, I'm sure it won't have any negative effects.

 

[Crimson Fucker]

And why can't the bear be brought in when they're still in the house?

It might give them time to get away. And the situation sounds funnier.

 

[SwimStaffRubber]

Who knew that the website that makes fun of trannies and retarded snowflakes has retarded snowflakes. Color me fucking green!

 

[Boobie Bomb]

This is beyond embarrassing

 

[Larva]

Now they're just baiting to ban some more users!

 

[Sneeder Griffin]

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This is beyond embarrassing

Now they're just baiting to ban some more users!
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Kiwi Farms has become completely unrecognizable compared to what it was even one or two years ago. This isn't even about the law itself or KF's reaction to it, since Null and Kiwi Farms have been seething about loli and shota for years. Rather, it's about the sheer lack of funny on the Farms nowadays.

Now, Kiwi Farms has gone through spurts of this in the past when the major lolcows were all inactive or boring at the same time. However, this is not the case right now. Bossmanjack is out of jail and is back streaming. Nick Rekeita got his charges dropped and is back on social media. Ethan Ralph is still doing his thing. Patrick Tomlinson is still doing his thing. DSP is still doing his thing. The entire left wing community is melting down over Trump's presidency to the extent that they're openly making death threats en masse.

In spite of all the funny things happening, what is Kiwi Farms focused on right now? Seething about lolicons and shotacons. Seething about Andrew Tate. Seething about Elon Musk. Seething about foreign politics. Seething about blacks and Muslims. Seething about moids in Beauty Parlor.

Kiwi Farms can no longer be considered a gossip site or even a comedy site. It has fully morphed into the right wing/TERF version of ResetEra, a bunch of joyless unfunny moralfags who go on constant crusades against people and communities they don't like. Sure, there were elements of these moral crusades in the past, but Null and other Kiwi Farmers always used to ask "Where is the funny?". Nobody's asking that anymore because nobody goes on Kiwi Farms to find funny content nowadays. They go there to form a moral crusade against whatever Null is mad about at that particular time and farm upvotes by circlejerking in favor of said moral crusade.

 

[Tom Homan's Alien Removals]

Now they're just baiting to ban some more users!
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My concerns with laws like SB 20 including "cartoons and animation" is what is the criteria for determining a character's age? There is no exact set standard and could end badly for all anime fans if it gets interpreted in the broadest possible way.

Anyone with Marin Kitagawa hentai on their PC in Texas might want to go full Hillary Clinton and BleachBit their hard drives if this passes the Texas House.

Though banning AI generated realistic CP is a 100% win. That shit has been completely banned at the federal level since 2003. This is the one time Congress actually had good foresight and states are playing catch-up.

 

[Larva]

My concerns with laws like SB 20 including "cartoons and animation" is what is the criteria for determining a character's age? There is no exact set standard and could end badly for all anime fans if it gets interpreted in the broadest possible way.

Anyone with Marin Kitagawa hentai on their PC in Texas might want to go full Hillary Clinton and BleachBit their hard drives if this passes the Texas House.

Though banning AI generated realistic CP is a 100% win. That shit has been completely banned at the federal level since 2003. This is the one time Congress actually had good foresight and states are playing catch-up.

If it's like the laws in Australia (IIRC) where even a petite grown-ass adult can be considered illegal (they don't give a shit if the pornstar is verified 40, if she's tiny and not very busty, she's CP, quit looking at her you pedophile!), then it's fucked. Hell, even an ultra moralfag like welperhelper99 could get in trouble for his avatars if he moves to Texas, since a quick google search says this about his waifu:

So what do they look at to jail someone? The age or the physical/mental age of the character? Where does the "100000000018 year old loli" meme fall?

 

[KrotchyKun666]

Actual voice actor wants better pay and some actual races that are not just Japanese white washing. Makes it about mental illnesses somehow.

Also, why target a small voice actress? It's not like she is wrong. Voice actors get paid like shit in America

Maybe it's just me, but I'd be more inclined to care about English voice actors if 90% of them weren't insufferable cunts that monopolized most roles through nepotism (just look at how many anime dubs and game dubs recycle the same five 40-50 year old Funimation actors) and if they actually put effort into sounding the role. Mihoyo games are some of the worst when it comes to English dubbing imho. Hearing fake british accents with recent Genshin characters is genuinely ear grating.

Maybe you could extrapolate what they're saying to their political views, but solely on someone's gender is a bit of a stretch.

 

[cosmic veteran]

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This is beyond embarrassing

Now they're just baiting to ban some more users!
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lmao, it's just one state. who the fuck cares, people can just move out of texas. this is what you'll get when you live in a fundamentalist shithole

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

My concerns with laws like SB 20 including "cartoons and animation" is what is the criteria for determining a character's age? There is no exact set standard and could end badly for all anime fans if it gets interpreted in the broadest possible way.

Anyone with Marin Kitagawa hentai on their PC in Texas might want to go full Hillary Clinton and BleachBit their hard drives if this passes the Texas House.

Though banning AI generated realistic CP is a 100% win. That shit has been completely banned at the federal level since 2003. This is the one time Congress actually had good foresight and states are playing catch-up.

Now they're just baiting to ban some more users!
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Kiwi Farms has become completely unrecognizable compared to what it was even one or two years ago. This isn't even about the law itself or KF's reaction to it, since Null and Kiwi Farms have been seething about loli and shota for years. Rather, it's about the sheer lack of funny on the Farms nowadays.

Now, Kiwi Farms has gone through spurts of this in the past when the major lolcows were all inactive or boring at the same time. However, this is not the case right now. Bossmanjack is out of jail and is back streaming. Nick Rekeita got his charges dropped and is back on social media. Ethan Ralph is still doing his thing. Patrick Tomlinson is still doing his thing. DSP is still doing his thing. The entire left wing community is melting down over Trump's presidency to the extent that they're openly making death threats en masse.

In spite of all the funny things happening, what is Kiwi Farms focused on right now? Seething about lolicons and shotacons. Seething about Andrew Tate. Seething about Elon Musk. Seething about foreign politics. Seething about blacks and Muslims. Seething about moids in Beauty Parlor.

Kiwi Farms can no longer be considered a gossip site or even a comedy site. It has fully morphed into the right wing/TERF version of ResetEra, a bunch of joyless unfunny moralfags who go on constant crusades against people and communities they don't like. Sure, there were elements of these moral crusades in the past, but Null and other Kiwi Farmers always used to ask "Where is the funny?". Nobody's asking that anymore because nobody goes on Kiwi Farms to find funny content nowadays. They go there to form a moral crusade against whatever Null is mad about at that particular time and farm upvotes by circlejerking in favor of said moral crusade.

Laws that are too broad like these do end up getting challenged in the federal court system though.

To be honest, this wouldn't be the first time Texas passed laws that got struck down later on because they're too stupid to realize how the Bill of Rights actually works (like when Texas tried to restrict public drag queen shows and then a federal judge struck parts of that down not too long after or when the Texas state legislature recently tried to ban speech criticizing the leadership for the Texas state legislature and that recently got struck down in the courts as well).

So this to me seems like another Supreme Court case in the making. Remember, the Free Speech Coalition v. Ashcroft (2002) ruling is still standing Supreme Court precedent (it's the ruling that stated that fictional depictions of child sexual abuse are protected speech). So I can imagine that civil rights groups like the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund, the Free Speech Coalition, and possibly the ACLU and NetChoice may file lawsuit against the state of Texas to challenge this law.

I'm aware of the Protect Act of 2003 which (objectively speaking) parts of that also has dogshit legislation where that's also way too broad in regards of what is seen as obscenity. But that law was written back when the Religious Right had more power and how social attitudes were like back then and anime and manga were still seen as niche forms of entertainment (stuff like Dragon Ball and Pokemon were popular back in the day but they were an exception since Western media still dominated American entertainment distributors back then). Japanese entertainment is no longer this niche form of entertainment anymore as it has gone mainstream, the cat is out of the bag and Japanese media is now a world wide sensation that may also end up challenging laws in other countries as far as free speech goes.

It's like how way back in the day Germany banned the video game Doom for being "too realistic" (this was during the anti-video game moral panic of the 1990's) only for the game to get unbanned by the early-2010's when the game was compared to games like GTA 4 at the time and argued that it's silly to ban a game with outdated MS-DOS graphics when a modern game like GTA 4 can continue being legally sold in Germany (so the German government unbanned Doom because that embarrassed Germany at the time).

Honestly, this may actually be the worst thing to happen to Kiwi Farms and may not be the victory they are hoping for.

If you remember the Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization ruling (2022), that ruling overturned Roe v. Wade and it was in regards to a right to an abortion. Roe v. Wade was always dogshit legislation because nowhere in the Constitution does it grant a person a right to privacy as far as medical manners go. So the conservatives got smart for once and realized that to overturn Roe v. Wade then they have to put aside their Bibles for once and to fight against it in a secular and objective manner by arguing that Roe v. Wade is unconstitutional because nowhere in the Constitution granted privacy for medical manners rather than calling it immoral like they used to do (Bible thumping did not help the Right to overturn Roe v. Wade in their previous attempts). What do I think about the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade? I think the Supreme Court ruled correctly in overturning Roe v. Wade because Roe v. Wade was always dogshit legislation (even the late liberal SCOTUS justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg acknowledged how Roe v. Wade was dogshit due to its unstable legal foundation to stay as a SCOTUS precedent any longer). The issue of abortion should have been an issue for Congress to tackle, not the Supreme Court at the time in how they ruled back in 1973.

Do you see where I'm getting at here? While obscenity (as established by both the Miller test and the Dost test) are not protected speech, what may come out of this is seeing the Supreme Court possibly nuking outdated obscenity laws and possibly adopt new strict scrutiny standards for both the Miller test and the Dost test in order to prevent further abuse by the legal system. So stuff like lolicon and shotacon may no longer be in a legal gray area anymore and they may become fully protected speech from that point on should this issue return back to the Supreme Court after roughly 20 years later.

The Protect Act of 2003 may finally get its day in the Supreme Court and possibly have some parts of it struck down for the same reasons Roe v. Wade was overturned back in 2022 (because the one thing the Protect Act of 2003 and Roe v. Wade have in common is that they are both still dogshit legislation).

 

[thefrogninja]

Kiwi Farms can no longer be considered a gossip site or even a comedy site. It has fully morphed into the right wing/TERF version of ResetEra, a bunch of joyless unfunny moralfags who go on constant crusades against people and communities they don't like.

Reddit Farms.

 

[Tom Homan's Alien Removals]

Laws that are too broad like these do end up getting challenged in the federal court system though.

To be honest, this wouldn't be the first time Texas passed laws that got struck down later on because they're too stupid to realize how the Bill of Rights actually works (like when Texas tried to restrict public drag queen shows and then a federal judge struck parts of that down not too long after or when the Texas state legislature recently tried to ban speech criticizing the leadership for the Texas state legislature and that recently got struck down in the courts as well).

So this to me seems like another Supreme Court case in the making. Remember, the Free Speech Coalition v. Ashcroft (2002) ruling is still standing Supreme Court precedent (it's the ruling that stated that fictional depictions of child sexual abuse are protected speech). So I can imagine that civil rights groups like the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund, the Free Speech Coalition, and possibly the ACLU and NetChoice may file lawsuit against the state of Texas to challenge this law.

I'm aware of the Protect Act of 2003 which (objectively speaking) parts of that also has dogshit legislation where that's also way too broad in regards of what is seen as obscenity. But that law was written back when the Religious Right had more power and how social attitudes were like back then and anime and manga were still seen as niche forms of entertainment (stuff like Dragon Ball and Pokemon were popular back in the day but they were an exception since Western media still dominated American entertainment distributors back then). Japanese entertainment is no longer this niche form of entertainment anymore as it has gone mainstream, the cat is out of the bag and Japanese media is now a world wide sensation that may also end up challenging laws in other countries as far as free speech goes.

It's like how way back in the day Germany banned the video game Doom for being "too realistic" (this was during the anti-video game moral panic of the 1990's) only for the game to get unbanned by the early-2010's when the game was compared to games like GTA 4 at the time and argued that it's silly to ban a game with outdated MS-DOS graphics when a modern game like GTA 4 can continue being legally sold in Germany (so the German government unbanned Doom because that embarrassed Germany at the time).

Honestly, this may actually be the worst thing to happen to Kiwi Farms and may not be the victory they are hoping for.

If you remember the Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization ruling (2022), that ruling overturned Roe v. Wade and it was in regards to a right to an abortion. Roe v. Wade was always dogshit legislation because nowhere in the Constitution does it grant a person a right to privacy as far as medical manners go. So the conservatives got smart for once and realized that to overturn Roe v. Wade then they have to put aside their Bibles for once and to fight against it in a secular and objective manner by arguing that Roe v. Wade is unconstitutional because nowhere in the Constitution granted privacy for medical manners rather than calling it immoral like they used to do (Bible thumping did not help the Right to overturn Roe v. Wade in their previous attempts). What do I think about the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade? I think the Supreme Court ruled correctly in overturning Roe v. Wade because Roe v. Wade was always dogshit legislation (even the late liberal SCOTUS justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg acknowledged how Roe v. Wade was dogshit due to its unstable legal foundation to stay as a SCOTUS precedent any longer). The issue of abortion should have been an issue for Congress to tackle, not the Supreme Court at the time in how they ruled back in 1973.

Do you see where I'm getting at here? While obscenity (as established by both the Miller test and the Dost test) are not protected speech, what may come out of this is seeing the Supreme Court possibly nuking outdated obscenity laws and possibly adopt new strict scrutiny standards for both the Miller test and the Dost test in order to prevent further abuse by the legal system. So stuff like lolicon and shotacon may no longer be in a legal gray area anymore and they may become fully protected speech from that point on should this issue return back to the Supreme Court after roughly 20 years later.

The Protect Act of 2003 may finally get its day in the Supreme Court and possibly have some parts of it struck down for the same reasons Roe v. Wade was overturned back in 2022 (because the one thing the Protect Act of 2003 and Roe v. Wade have in common is that they are both still dogshit legislation).

Wouldn't get my hopes up for overturning obscenity laws. The current conservative court is well... conservative. They aren't libertarians.

Besides, because of the gender nonsense we've had to put up with, attitudes are turning more towards Christian fundamentalism.

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

Wouldn't get my hopes up for overturning obscenity laws. The current conservative court is well... conservative. They aren't libertarians.

Besides, because of the gender nonsense we've had to put up with, attitudes are turning more towards Christian fundamentalism.

I wouldn't really count on that.

Even though the Supreme Court leans more towards the Right now, there are times even SCOTUS have not entertained the nonsense being pushed by conservatives.

One example was the time when conservatives did the whole 'Stop The Steal' movement which was an attempt by both conservatives and Trump to overturn the 2020 Presidential Election results during the Biden years; the federal courts (including the conservative leaning courts) dismissed and rejected the various lawsuits that attempted to nullify the 2020 election results. When the issue came to the Supreme Court, they've rejected Trump's attempt to overturn the 2020 election results and SCOTUS essentially told him to get over it (where the MAGA movement eventually got the hint that overturning the 2020 election results was simply not going to happen).

Another dumb attempt by Trump in trying to solidify his power was trying to overturn his hush money conviction in New York state (the Stormy Daniels case) and appealed this to the Supreme Court; again they didn't entertained his nonsense where they rejected Trump's attempt to do this and they essentially told him to face the music.

Then there is the issue with Tiktok. Both Conservatives and Liberals alike did not like how the Biden administration pushed for and passed a law that allowed the federal government to ban apps deemed hostile to national security if said apps are developed and based in a hostile foreign power (like China). Some liberals objected to this for free speech reasons, but plenty of conservatives also objected to this for both free speech reasons and free market reasons. The Supreme Court ruled against Tiktok which angered a lot of conservatives at the time (although Trump would save Tiktok by expanding the deadline and giving Tiktok more time to more their operations in the U.S. to satisfy American federal law). While Tiktok got the good ending (kinda), that Supreme Court ruling was still a big loss for conservatives at the time because a right-leaning SCOTUS sided with Biden.

The most recent loss that Trump and the conservatives have taken is how the Supreme Court sided with USAID and rejected Trump's attempt to defund already completed projects under USAID (and this came as a surprise for Trump and conservatives alike because they thought they had this in the bag only for SCOTUS to tell Trump to hand over the money back to completed USAID projects).

My point is that just because the Supreme Court leans more towards the Right now does not necessarily mean SCOTUS will give everything the Right wants. There's plenty of nonsense that SCOTUS won't entertain from the Left but there's also plenty of nonsense that they won't entertain from the Right either.

The purpose of SCOTUS is to interpret both the law and the U.S. Constitution in the most objective manner possible and so far they're still doing their jobs in doing so.

Although it's clear to me Kiwi Farms gets their law advice from Reddit at this point now.

 

[cobson jr.]

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This is beyond embarrassing

"I say ban all of the shows with underage fanservice"
So 90% of anime?