Kiwifarms Gossip & Slap Fights KF General 2.0

[Boobie Bomb]

To the broomstick farms that complain about her making huge views on Vic and Asmongold? Her dog says otherwise.

 

[SwimStaffRubber]

A.I slop will never be the future, faggot.

 

[Chrysler Building]

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A.I slop will never be the future, faggot.

Written AI has a brighter future than image AI. The written stuff can respond to you and ask questions but the """art""" always looks like ass and the computer is too stupid to figure out how to keep the original subject that you liked and draw it from a different angle. Even the best AI is completely flummoxed by commands like "higher shot, 3/4 in the frame."

 

[ecto_chasm]

Rekieta sucks and Kiwifarms sucks. Makes sense to let them fight.

I knew Rekieta was a retard but I didn’t know precisely how retarded he was until I found out about his role in the Vic Mignogna lolsuit.

 

[Chrysler Building]

I knew Rekieta was a retard but I didn’t know precisely how retarded he was until I found out about his role in the Vic Mignogna lolsuit.

He stole every cent and spent it on drugs lol. Which is a fitting end for Vic and a parasite ambulance chaser

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

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A.I slop will never be the future, faggot.

I just see AI as another tech bubble like the other ones we saw in the past 30 years.

Speculative investors come in, they hype something up, it turns out the assets in question are worth less than what they are actually worth, and the market for said investments collapses.

We've seen this before with the Dot Com Bubble of the 1990's where Wall Street threw money at just about any company that opened a website for their business. They weren't wrong that the Internet would have a huge impact on the world but many of those investors at the time backed the wrong horses and eventually by the end of the 1990's, the Dot Com Bubble popped and many were left broke and without jobs. The Tech industry would eventually recover but that was a hard lesson for many to not blindly buy into hype just because something is new and shiny.

Then there is Crypto. I'm sure everyone that remembers the late-2010s probably remembers how prices for graphics cards skyrocketed because everyone was hyping up Crypto as the next big thing. Bitcoin skyrocketed in its value and Ethereum was creating new millionaires so everyone wanted to get in on the hype. Many people began to buy up graphics cards meant for gaming to mine their own crypto to become rich. It was a digital gold rush. But then the price for Bitcoin started to plummet and Etheruem went from being proof of work to proof of stake so suddenly the hype for crypto plummeted and many people found themselves selling off their mining equipment after the hype died out. Crypto is still around but the hype for it has died down as many know more about the reality of crypto investing.

So this brings me to AI. I'm going to paraphrase what Linus Torvalds (the creator of the Linux kernel) said about AI, it's 10 percent real world application and the other 90 percent is hype, hot air, and vaporware. AI as we know it is so hyped up as this big thing but hardly anyone asks the question of what real world applications that it's going to have in everyday life. So far, people haven't really grown fond of AI generated artwork because many see it as soulless and worthless. Gamers don't like AI because the fake frames being promised by hardware manufactures like nvidia don't live up to the hype and they still want you to pay and arm and a leg for their GPUs. I can list more examples. AI will be here to stay but the reality will set in on how AI will really impact our lives and the AI bubble that we see now will crash sooner or later.

There is some old wisdom that seems to be taken for granted. To paraphrase the legendary investor Warren Buffet, if you are going to invest in something then be fearful when everyone else is greedy and be greedy when everyone else is fearful so that you minimize the chances of you being burned by a bad investment.

The whole AI thing is mostly just blind hype. AI will be around long after the bubble has burst but AI will likely not live up to the hype as many people make it out to be now.

 

[SwimStaffRubber]

I just see AI as another tech bubble like the other ones we saw in the past 30 years.

Speculative investors come in, they hype something up, it turns out the assets in question are worth less than what they are actually worth, and the market for said investments collapses.

We've seen this before with the Dot Com Bubble of the 1990's where Wall Street threw money at just about any company that opened a website for their business. They weren't wrong that the Internet would have a huge impact on the world but many of those investors at the time backed the wrong horses and eventually by the end of the 1990's, the Dot Com Bubble popped and many were left broke and without jobs. The Tech industry would eventually recover but that was a hard lesson for many to not blindly buy into hype just because something is new and shiny.

Then there is Crypto. I'm sure everyone that remembers the late-2010s probably remembers how prices for graphics cards skyrocketed because everyone was hyping up Crypto as the next big thing. Bitcoin skyrocketed in its value and Ethereum was creating new millionaires so everyone wanted to get in on the hype. Many people began to buy up graphics cards meant for gaming to mine their own crypto to become rich. It was a digital gold rush. But then the price for Bitcoin started to plummet and Etheruem went from being proof of work to proof of stake so suddenly the hype for crypto plummeted and many people found themselves selling off their mining equipment after the hype died out. Crypto is still around but the hype for it has died down as many know more about the reality of crypto investing.

So this brings me to AI. I'm going to paraphrase what Linus Torvalds (the creator of the Linux kernel) said about AI, it's 10 percent real world application and the other 90 percent is hype, hot air, and vaporware. AI as we know it is so hyped up as this big thing but hardly anyone asks the question of what real world applications that it's going to have in everyday life. So far, people haven't really grown fond of AI generated artwork because many see it as soulless and worthless. Gamers don't like AI because the fake frames being promised by hardware manufactures like nvidia don't live up to the hype and they still want you to pay and arm and a leg for their GPUs. I can list more examples. AI will be here to stay but the reality will set in on how AI will really impact our lives and the AI bubble that we see now will crash sooner or later.

There is some old wisdom that seems to be taken for granted. To paraphrase the legendary investor Warren Buffet, if you are going to invest in something then be fearful when everyone else is greedy and be greedy when everyone else is fearful so that you minimize the chances of you being burned by a bad investment.

The whole AI thing is mostly just blind hype. AI will be around long after the bubble has burst but AI will likely not live up to the hype as many people make it out to be now.

The bottom line is this, it's just for shitposting and that's the reality of it.

 

[Kan]

The bottom line is this, it's just for shitposting and that's the reality of it.

Gumbo Slice and the OddgiantAF’s videos come to mind.

Kiwisee could’ve gone deeper in the valley.

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

The bottom line is this, it's just for shitposting and that's the reality of it.

And even then, new forms of shitposting will arrive.

I just see AI shitposting as the Advice Animals of this generation where you had a template set up for you (or you can add one yourself) and just add words using a meme generator that you could've found online back then (these old memes that looked like this as an example, I'll probably unlock old memories with this image alone).

These kinds of memes from back in the day were made with the many meme generators you can find online and often for free. So the whole concept of using a computer to generate a meme for you is nothing new.

Using AI to generate a meme is just using an old 2010's era meme generator with extra steps. It's like reinventing the wheel. So you can make the argument that there is really nothing special about AI being used to generate memes because people were doing the more primitive equivalent of that back in the 2010's long before AI stepped into the picture.

 

[SwimStaffRubber]

And even then, new forms of shitposting will arrive.

I just see AI shitposting as the Advice Animals of this generation where you had a template set up for you (or you can add one yourself) and just add words using a meme generator that you could've found online back then (these old memes that looked like this as an example, I'll probably unlock old memories with this image alone).
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These kinds of memes from back in the day were made with the many meme generators you can find online and often for free. So the whole concept of using a computer to generate a meme for you is nothing new.

Using AI to generate a meme is just using an old 2010's era meme generator with extra steps. It's like reinventing the wheel. So you can make the argument that there is really nothing special about AI being used to generate memes because people were doing the more primitive equivalent of that back in the 2010's long before AI stepped into the picture.

Yeah A.I shitposting is just a higher quality version of the memes that were profound back in the early 2010's. Of course the generation that'll only grow up as A.I as their source finder will only attest to A.I, plus there's the fact A.I can do all the heavy lifting for you.

What is with these slop posts, "If someone showed me this in a vaccum".

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

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What is with these slop posts, "If someone showed me this in a vaccum".

This kind of mindset isn't new and it goes back to the Youtube Skeptic days back when the Skeptics labeled anything they saw as Progressive as "SJW" (the term 'Social Justice Warrior' or SJW was used to describe Woke content back then).

Is Wokeness cringe? Yes it is. Does a work of media having some progressive themes make it Woke? Not really.

So back in the day, there was a Youtuber that went by the name of 'No Bullshit' who was one of those anti-SJW skeptics that were prevalent in the 2010's. However, part of the reason why people used to dunk on No Bullshit was his flawed argument that if something had a female lead then it must be "SJW" and therefore bad. It was pretty easy for left-wingers to tear apart his argument because you can easily point out plenty of fictional works with female leads that are not SJW (or not Woke if you prefer).

So this brings me to Wokeness we see today. Does a work of fiction with some progressive themes make it Woke? The answer is simply no. I just think this is a classic case of Rightoids confusing artistic merit with propaganda.

The 2023 animated series Velma (an adult sitcom based on the Scooby Doo series) is the definition of Woke as the whole show is designed to be propaganda that is meant to sell far-left progressive ideals and preaches that you're a bad person if you don't adopt these ideals. Velma was created by a spiteful person that wanted to "Own the Chuds" by creating a bastardized version of Scooby Doo filled to the brim with progressive propaganda. So it's safe to say that Velma is Woke.

Now let's look at something that isn't Woke. The hit crime drama series Breaking Bad is beloved by many and is considered to be one of the greatest things to happen on television. The show has a canonically gay character named Gustavo Fring, a ruthless drug lord that runs a fried chicken restaurant chain and he uses his legal business as a front to sell potent methamphetamine of the best quality in the streets. Gus Fring is gay but that doesn't make Breaking Bad a bad show nor does it make it Woke. The show is not selling people LGBT propaganda. The whole point of Breaking Bad is to show how there are no winners in the criminal underworld and everyone involved gets negatively affected (losing loved ones, being forced to run from the law and live in fear, ending up in prison, or ending up dead). Breaking Bad having a gay character does not make the show Woke and the show does a good job to show the viewer why Gustavo Fring is a horrible person and you should not be like him; Gus Fring is an evil fictional character that just so happens to be gay and Breaking Bad has plenty of evil heterosexual characters that shows the viewer that evil comes from all kinds of backgrounds.

So the point I'm making here is that just because a piece of fiction has some progressive themes does not make it Woke. All Woke content is progressive but not every work of fiction that has progressive themes is Woke.

It really does feel like being in the early-2010's again with Rightoids making the same dumbass arguments that lead to the rise of Breadtube later on.

 

[thefrogninja]

Kiwifarms users see it fit to mock steamer Steven "Destiny" Bonnell over the fact that he was molested as a child.
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Kiwifarms users continue to mock streamer Steven "Destiny" Bonnell over his possible molestation as a child. Just imagine how hard and fast feminist Josh would whip out the banhammer if his users mocked a woman for being molested.
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Calling Destiny a pedophile with evidence?
Making fun of Destiny for being molested?

Kiwifarms users continue to act like ghouls.
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Kiwifarms user StrangerMe, who is very likely an alt account of banned user Blav, takes a particularly kind of glee in the "brutal molestation" of streamer Steven "Destiny" Bonnell when he was a child. Other users continue to take his lead and mock Destiny for being molested as a child. These are the sick creeps Josh welcomes on his website so long as it's against people he despises.
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I was a little sympathetic to Blav at first when he was banned, but all these comments are indefensible and just as pedophilic as Destiny. Who knows if Josh is just dumb and looking the other way because he realized Blav was right about Destiny all along or if he just somehow missing all these pro-child molestation comments. Lidl is also suspiciously absent from the thread. We all know none of these comments would fly if they were making fun of a women for being molested.

 

[SwimStaffRubber]

I was a little sympathetic to Blav at first when he was banned, but all these comments are indefensible and just as pedophilic as Destiny. Who knows if Josh is just dumb and looking the other way because he realized Blav was right about Destiny all along or if he just somehow missing all these pro-child molestation comments. Lidl is also suspiciously absent from the thread. We all know none of these comments would fly if they were making fun of a women for being molested.
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How is there so goddamn many fucking posts of this shit? Also nice to see that faggot draggs in this.

 

[cosmic veteran]

okay, who's brave enough to add Daniel Lopez into that thread?

 

[Kan]

The bottom line is this, it's just for shitposting and that's the reality of it.

Gumbo Slice and the OddgiantAF’s videos come to mind.

Kiwisee could’ve gone deeper in the valley.
I’m

I was a little sympathetic to Blav at first when he was banned, but all these comments are indefensible and just as pedophilic as Destiny. Who knows if Josh is just dumb and looking the other way because he realized Blav was right about Destiny all along or if he just somehow missing all these pro-child molestation comments. Lidl is also suspiciously absent from the thread. We all know none of these comments would fly if they were making fun of a women for being molested.
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It’s like a layered blackhole of unjustifiable depravity.

 

[Boobie Bomb]

It's frustrating to see how the recent pedophilia investigation involving Harmful Opinions and KiwiFarms has been handled. It seems like they might have jumped the gun by making a video about a VTuber accused of being a Lolicon and her roommate, rather than prioritizing a proper police investigation. While I understand the desire to expose potential harm, going public before involving law enforcement can really complicate things. Remember the Kerfuffles case? That situation highlights how premature public exposure can hinder a legitimate investigation.

It's also important to focus on concrete evidence. Simply showing someone's interest in Lolicon content doesn't necessarily prove they're engaging in actual child exploitation. We need clear, irrefutable proof, like direct messages showing inappropriate contact with minors, to really make a difference. Things like screenshots of private conversations where someone is sharing explicit content with a minor are the type of evidence that is needed. Without that, it’s hard to take the claims seriously, and it can even weaken future investigations.

By going public prematurely, like with the VTuber case, there's a risk of evidence being deleted, making it harder for law enforcement to act. This kind of "vigilante" approach, while well-intentioned, can unfortunately sabotage efforts to protect children. It's really crucial to remember that the best way to address these serious issues is by prioritizing official police reports and letting them conduct thorough investigations. I know it's hard to see these mistakes repeated, but hopefully, we can learn from them and do better in the future.


Look at this mess.

 

[Crimson Fucker]

Had a curious interaction with some moderators on Kiwi Farms regarding the issue of trauma dumping. I was instructed to stop complaining about users engaging in this behavior, as the moderators apparently find it entertaining and amusing.

To be fair, it is funny. But I can also see why you would tell the ones doing it they are power leveling and over sharing, informing them they will be mocked. It does get ridiculous and makes the people using their site look retarded. They do a good enough job looking retarded without it. But if they want to look like a site full of kettles calling pots black that only makes us look like the better alternative.

 

[Nektar Geist]

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

Harmful Opinions and KiwiFarms fucked up with a pedo investigation again. So HO made a video on some VTuber who is a Lolicon claiming she is a pedo and found her roommate is a pedo as well. Now of course, with serious stuff like this. Did he do the right now by sending this stuff to the police to fact-check the correct information? Nah! He made a video about it and told KiwiFarms to find this shit for him ruining any chances for a true investigation that the police will ignore as fake news. That is how someone like Kerfuffles got away from being in prison for a while. KiwiFarms or whoever fucked that shit over because they made it public even before leaving PG. Like how am I going to believe that someone is a pedo if all you show is them gooning for lolicon shit and not stuff like some chick DMing underage boys of her tit pics? Unless it's shit like private DMs of Bitty showing her pussy and ass to little Timmy. Then you are not helping protect real kids from these monsters. Also, shit like this can get deleted fast so not only are these guys idiots but they fuck up future investigations of ever going after Bitty. Because of HO and The Broomstick's Batman-style crimefighting. They just make themselves look like fucking idiots in a nutshell. So the rules of Pedo Hunting. If you make a video of said creep before you report them to the police after you made a video on them. You ruined future cases with this VTuber and are making future pedos smart enough to delete any stuff about them online. It's just sad that I have to repeat this crap.

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Look at this mess.

There's only one thing I can really say about this, Kiwi Farms and some pseudointellectual Rightoids don't understand why the Internet has grown to hate predator hunters. It's not because suddenly society has grown to love pedos (they don't) but because the vast majority of predator hunters do it for the clout rather than taking appropriate measures to do the right thing.

The Internet is no stranger to creeps since its creation in the early-1990's. So let's look at some examples of creeps that got away with it because retarded trolls. misguided online communities, and misguided vigilantes on the Internet took matters into the own hands and they fucked it up.

ToonKriticY2K:

Back when the Brony fandom was at its peak, ToonKriticY2K was a pretty popular Brony content creator that made videos related to the hit animated adventure series My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic which was also a big meme on the Internet back in the 2010's. Things were going well until his ex-friends discovered that he was grooming a minor that lived in the Philippines. People like joshscorcher confronted ToonKriticY2K over what he's done and they planned to turn him over to the police. However, some idiot that was in that Skype call decided to leak the conversation that exposed ToonKriticY2K being a pedophile. This would be posted on Kiwi Farms and by third-parties on Youtube and this was an enormous scandal in the Brony fandom at the time. However, ToonKriticY2K would then go on a deleting spree where he wiped out his entire social media presence (including deleting his Youtube account). I think joshscorcher would confirm that the police called off the investigation because details were too muddled and they were bombarded with tips that they simply had no resources to look though them all to see if any of them were real or fake. ToonKriticY2K got away with it because trolls botched the investigation.

EDP445:

This is probably a very infamous example that shows everything wrong with online predator hunting. So EDP445 was a once popular sports Youtuber where he would talk about sports and make rants related to sports like Football. A Youtuber going by the name of ColdRaven would start documenting EDP445's creepy behavior and he would later talk about this with Keemstar. Later on, a self-proclaimed vigilante named Alex Rosen would conduct his own sting operation to catch EDP445 in the act. The sting proved EDP445 to be a predator but there was just one problem, Alex Rosen was doing it for the clout at the time and people dug up Alex Rosen's history where it was shown that he has ties to some various right-wing extremist groups (which created a conflict of interest). Alex Rosen royally botched the investigation because he had a massive ego and was blinded by his own fame to take this seriously. The district attorney that was looking at the case decided to not charge EDP445 for his crimes due to insufficient objective evidence. Afterwards Alex Rosen was heavily criticized and trashed on because of his incompetence. This also resulted in Youtube and the many Big Tech platforms in general (like Reddit and Facebook) to add new rules that crack down on misguided vigilantism (the reason why you don't see many predator hunters on Youtube anymore is because Youtube banned them for being incompetent retards). EDP445 would get exposed again but once again it was the same song and dance, the people that exposed him botched everything and EDP445 gotten away with it (he got away with it twice).

Chris-Chan:

So as far as I know, Chris-Chan is not a pedophile (CWC is a lot of things but there has never been an incident with him so far where he preyed on a minor). What I'm going to talk about it the spectasrular fail by Kiwi Farms in trying to get him convicted for having sex with his mother. So to summarize, a now disgraced Ween by the name of Bella (Isabella Loretta Janke) would have a call with Chris-Chan where CWC confirmed (although CWC has been known to be a pathological liar) that he was having sexual relations with his own mother. The call was leaked to Kiwi Farms and Bella got doxed anyway because the Kiwis saw her as a retarded Ween and Chris-Chan would be reported to the police. There Chris-Chan spent around a year in jail being charged with incest after he was arrested on August 1st, 2021. The Kiwis thought that CWC may actually spend time in prison this time around. However, Chris-Chan's lawyer got him scott free on a technicality where CWC's very own Saul Goodman pulled a magic trick and used the insanity plea that grants mercy to those that have mental disabilities (like autism so autism was his 'Get Out of Jail Free' card after all). The Kiwis botched the whole thing and Chris-Chan walked away a free man. Did Chirs-Chan ever had sex with his own mother? We don't know, it's still an allegation (I still think Chris-Chan did it). But one thing is for sure, Kiwi Farms wasted everyone's time on a weak ass case that wasn't going anywhere because it's clear to me Kiwi Farms users obviouly got their law degree at some diploma mill.

This brings me to BittyCat. So I looked at this shit and all I can say is while I'm fucking disgusted, I'll try to be objective with this as much as I can.

So me looking into BittyCat, she to me seems like a mediocre porn voice actor that voices acts goon lolicon stuff for other random lolicon gooners for money. I've listened to some of her shit and the only thing I can say here is that it's not for the faint of heart (to put is very nicely, it's pretty clear what kind of audience she really wants). BittyCat to me is a degenerate and so are the people close to her (based on what I've seen, one of the people close to her is some short-fused hot head that struggles with alcoholism). There's also how she harbored a community of legit pedos and her logic is that pedos should be open about themselves so that they are less likely to harm children; while I can see where she is coming from but the big issue with everything I've seen from this is that she seems to be an enabler and often chooses the dumbass "Accept them as they are" route rather than finding these people the psychiatric help so to me that is really sketchy about BittyCat. I will play Devil's Advocate though, Bitty's content (while fucking disgusting as it is) does still fall within artistic merit and within the realm of fiction as disgusting as her content is ( it be fair to point out that media in general is no stranger to obscenity controversies, see Stanley Kubrick, J. D. Salinger, and William Luther Pierce if you know the works of those three individuals). There is an accusation that she voiced over actual CSAM but the skeptical part of my mind sees this as hard to prove and may just be her accusers trying to throw anything that can stick to the wall. Even with that said, I get the strong impression that BittyCat probably suffers from some from of mental illness and she comes off to me as a pathological liar. So while some details about the accusations seem doubtful to me, I still see BittyCat as a terrible person.

As for how Kiwi Farms is handling this. Holy fuck are they retarded in how they are handling this. They seem to be far too emotional and acting on impulse in this whole shitshow (I heard death threats were made to BittyCat and her loved ones, the first rule when dealing with lolcow is don't A-Log lolcows no matter how vile they may be; you don't want to become an Anthony LoGotto). Yes, pedos are bad but the way Kiwi Farms is handling this drama has to be the dumbest thing I ever seen from them since the infighting slapfight they had over MrEnter a decade ago. So far it's mostly just retarded Weens and A-Logs on Kiwi Farms that are being the lead voices in this and if you ask me, it's going to backfire on Kiwi Farms because when it comes to situations like these they often take the 'Feels over Reals' approach and then they wonder why things didn't turned out the way as they planned (I know there is a rule on Kiwi Farms that say no retarded trolling plans because your trolling idea is likely gay and lame anyway). The way Kiwi Farms is handling this drama will very likely end in the same way Jersh had to put his foot down and told his own userbase to stop A-Logging MrEnter and stop being faggots because MrEnter isn't Hitler and resulted in the Entershpere subfourm to be permanently closed. It doesn't help that Harmful Opinions is acting like a smug asshole when it comes to any constructive criticism being directed towards him in this shitshow (a reminder as to why the Youtube Skeptic community collapsed years ago).

So me seeing Kiwi Farms vs. a degenerate vtuber is basically this old but gold meme:

 

[KrotchyKun666]

As for how Kiwi Farms is handling this. Holy fuck are they retarded in how they are handling this. They seem to be far too emotional and acting on impulse in this whole shitshow (I heard death threats were made to BittyCat and her loved ones, the first rule when dealing with lolcow is don't A-Log lolcows no matter how vile they may be; you don't want to become an Anthony LoGotto). Yes, pedos are bad but the way Kiwi Farms is handling this drama has to be the dumbest thing I ever seen from them since the slapfight they had over MrEnter a decade ago.

I personally don't have much of a horse in this race (I'll agree with them that the indie vtuber space needs some desperate cleaning up and gatekeeping, and I really don't use X much anymore and actively mute this kind of discourse because it's fucking retarded), but it's probably not a coincidence that it's mostly Welper and Toji in these kinds of threads and responding rather quickly, without a fail. Like between that thread and the Rev Says Desu thread primarily, even seen quick responses in the Sewerslvt and Zesty Jesus threads. Bonus points for some of the genuinely cringe memes they've been posting in the lolicon community thread, and I'd honestly consider this a case of "Staring too long into the abyss and it stares back" in terms of developing borderline lolcow behavior. Either that shit lives rent free in their head 24/7, or they have absolutely nothing better to do but to post on KF all day without any sort of break. Sometimes, I've seen some cases of lying by omission or actively lying about other things (not that it makes what they say "wrong", but rather it makes taking what's being said at face value to be very unreliable). Bittycat isn't a good person to say the least.

Some of the stuff in this long-ass thread is frankly hilarious to see, especially if KF'ers defends people they "agree" with (Nevermind the fact that they'll be quick to cancel anyone who's over that kind of stuff for a while, while actively being buds with Null, who has on record admitted to gooning to Shotacon, up until his moderation of 8chan, which makes the circlejerking around people who like loli characters but not liking MAPs/groomers to be a bit ironic). Seems a bit like a grift in of itself. Best to just treat that site as a website for keeping track of drama rather than any sort of justice serving (outside of Nick Bates and Mr Cynical at least).

But yes, this specific thing is devolving into a Mr Enter scenario, where nobody wins. How long until we see a Earth Updates tier crashout from KF members? There's no winners or losers, only massive autistic faggots embarrassing themselves. And before anyone says anything for me posting here, self proclaimed MAPs and trolls remorse faggots should ack themselves.