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Lidl Drip appears to say he molested on a women while she was drunk.

Didl Drip worships a man who told Didl to fuck his sister. Didl has no argument.

Null said on MATI that Hardin is going to send out Notices to Retain Information to the people he plans to sue: "We will send the demand letters in, like, the upcoming week or so".


To give you an idea of what such a letter does:

Federal law requires the early preservation of potentially relevant evidence. In Napster, Inc. Copyright Litig. it was found that ā€œa litigate is under a duty to preserve evidence which it knows or reasonably should know is relevant to the action.ā€ In re Napster, Inc. Copyright Litig. 462 F. Supp. 2d 1060, 1067 (N.D. Cal. 2006). Six years later, in Apple Inc. v. Samsung Electronics, the Court bluntly defined the timing when preservation attached as ā€œfrom the moment that litigation is reasonably anticipated.ā€ Apple Inc. v. Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., 881 F. Supp. 2d 1132, 1136 (N.D. Cal. 2012). Once litigation is anticipated, a party ā€œmust suspend its routine document retention/destruction policy and put in place a ā€˜litigation hold’ to ensure the preservation of relevant documents.ā€ Zubulake v. UBS Warburg, 2020 FRD 212, 218 (S.D.N.Y. 2003). In practice, attorneys should consider the receipt of demand letters, summons, complaints, subpoenas, employee accidents, and discrimination allegations as a non-exhaustive list of examples of when one should reasonably anticipate litigation and undertake affirmative actions to ensure preservation.

In California, the law slightly differs from its federal cousin. The California Civil Discovery Act of 1986 (ā€œCDAā€) governs civil discovery within the Golden State. While the CDA is where one would expect the prohibition of the intentional destruction of evidence, surprisingly, the CDA does not explicitly bar the deliberate destruction of relevant evidence before a lawsuit has been filed or before a discovery request. See, e.g., Dodge, Warren & Peters Ins. Services, Inc. v. Riley, 105 Cal. App. 4th 1414, 1419 (2003).

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Given the judicial power to order preservation, give an adverse jury instruction, suspension, disbarment, or the possibility of removal to federal court where there is a more defined standard, attorneys litigating in California should follow the federal standards to determine when preservation attaches. By doing so, an attorney will likely meet their California duties of preservation and be well prepared if the matter is removed to federal court.


#DropKiwiFarms started 2 years ago and LFJ has already deleted his Twitter account, so what documents are they hoping to retain now that they've already announced their intents to sue him? Caraballo and LFJ and everyone three degrees separated from them have likely already DFEd everything related to #DropKiwiFarms. I specifically remember Bardfinn - a TRA from Reddit who was also involved with #DropKiwiFarms - specifically mentioning, when he deleted his Twitter account in response to Elon Musk acquiring Twitter - that he went through all of his DM threads and DFE because he feared his DMs being leaked. Ellen Murray openly tweeted about him and Keffals going into a secret Signal channel whenever there was a DDoS attack against KF. LFJ himself DFEd his Twitter account in response to Elon Musk, but most of those tweets are still up on KFs, spread over several threads. What exactly does Null hope to preserve at this point? These lolsuits are 2 years too late.

A Retention of Documents letter is bullshit anyway, IMO, because like I said, all or most of the defendants in these cases will end up filing anti-SLAPP motions - the TRAs definitely will - and then Null then can spend a year fighting against it and end up still losing like Marilyn Manson did when he failed to fight the anti-SLAPPs in his case. But I think I can see what Hardin is doing here. Hardin is leading Null to believe that he will totally get rid of the anti-SLAPPs, and that he totally will be able to perform discovery, so he's putting the defendants on notice that he intends to do so.

Null should go into the Marilyn Manson vs. Evan Rachel Wood thread on KF, and look at all the legal documents I posted there when I was still on KF. I wasn't able to post about Manson losing his defamation case due to the anti-SLAPP motions being upheld, because I was already banned by then. But I linked to a Google Drive full of folders with all the legal documents, including the ones in response to the anti-SLAPP motions. If Null takes the time to read the earlier documents in that case, he will see that Manson specifically complained about the fact that Illma Gored (ERW's lesbian girlfriend at the time) accused him of being a pedophile in a tweet she later deleted. You can see how this case is comparable to the one Null wants to file: Manson complained about being called a pedo in a tweet, Null is complaining about being accused of having CP on KF. Even that accusation - literally accusing Manson of being a pedophile on the basis of purely hearsay accusations by others - even that accusation amounted to protected speech, according to the CA court that upheld the anti-SLAPPs! LFJ and his company Honeycomb are in California BTW, which is Null's forum of choice according to his MATI statements.

If it's protected speech for Illma Gore to accuse Marilyn Manson of being a pedophile in a tweet, how does Hardin intend to go about getting the anti-SLAPPs out of the way when the TRAs inevitably invoke it?

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Didl Drip worships a man who told Didl to fuck his sister. Didl has no argument.

Null said on MATI that Hardin is going to send out Notices to Retain Information to the people he plans to sue: "We will send the demand letters in, like, the upcoming week or so".


To give you an idea of what such a letter does:



#DropKiwiFarms started 2 years ago and LFJ has already deleted his Twitter account, so what documents are they hoping to retain now that they've already announced their intents to sue him? Caraballo and LFJ and everyone three degrees separated from them have likely already DFEd everything related to #DropKiwiFarms. I specifically remember Bardfinn - a TRA from Reddit who was also involved with #DropKiwiFarms - specifically mentioning, when he deleted his Twitter account in response to Elon Musk acquiring Twitter - that he went through all of his DM threads and DFE because he feared his DMs being leaked. Ellen Murray openly tweeted about him and Keffals going into a secret Signal channel whenever there was a DDoS attack against KF. LFJ himself DFEd his Twitter account in response to Elon Musk, but most of those tweets are still up on KFs, spread over several threads. What exactly does Null hope to preserve at this point? These lolsuits are 2 years too late.

A Retention of Documents letter is bullshit anyway, IMO, because like I said, all or most of the defendants in these cases will end up filing anti-SLAPP motions - the TRAs definitely will - and then Null then can spend a year fighting against it and end up still losing like Marilyn Manson did when he failed to fight the anti-SLAPPs in his case. But I think I can see what Hardin is doing here. Hardin is leading Null to believe that he will totally get rid of the anti-SLAPPs, and that he totally will be able to perform discovery, so he's putting the defendants on notice that he intends to do so.

Null should go into the Marilyn Manson vs. Evan Rachel Wood thread on KF, and look at all the legal documents I posted there when I was still on KF. I wasn't able to post about Manson losing his defamation case due to the anti-SLAPP motions being upheld, because I was already banned by then. But I linked to a Google Drive full of folders with all the legal documents, including the ones in response to the anti-SLAPP motions. If Null takes the time to read the earlier documents in that case, he will see that Manson specifically complained about the fact that Illma Gored (ERW's lesbian girlfriend at the time) accused him of being a pedophile in a tweet she later deleted. You can see how this case is comparable to the one Null wants to file: Manson complained about being called a pedo in a tweet, Null is complaining about being accused of having CP on KF. Even that accusation - literally accusing Manson of being a pedophile on the basis of purely hearsay accusations by others - even that accusation amounted to protected speech, according to the CA court that upheld the anti-SLAPPs! LFJ and his company Honeycomb are in California BTW, which is Null's forum of choice according to his MATI statements.

If it's protected speech for Illma Gore to accuse Marilyn Manson of being a pedophile in a tweet, how does Hardin intend to go about getting the anti-SLAPPs out of the way when the TRAs inevitably invoke it?

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Null got mad and pink triangled android raptor for this thread and SHUT IT DOWN!
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Rick Rickman|
Published: February 8, 2024
Joseph DeShan, a teacher in Cinnaminson, was accused of having a sexual affair with an underage girl in the 1980s. (

šŸŽ Former reverend's teaching license has been revoked
šŸŽ Fathered child with a 16-year-old girl in the 90s
šŸŽ Complimented student felt uncomfortable
CINNAMINSON — A New Jersey board is revoking the teaching certificate of a school teacher and former Catholic priest who fathered a child with an underage girl, a move that many feel is long overdue.

John DeShan can no longer teach in New Jersey, the State Board of Examiners ruled. He must turn over all copies of his credentials and certifications to the state by Feb. 19.

The board found that DeShan "exercised poor judgment in his interactions with several minor children" and that he didn't understand the gravity of his actions.
New Jersey 101.5 has contacted Cinnaminson Superintendent Stephen Cappello for comment.

DeShan's fathering of a child with a teenage girl in Connecticut over 30 years ago was controversial when it emerged in 2002. But he managed to keep his job as a school teacher for over two decades.

The girl, a member of DeShan's youth group, became pregnant with his child in 1989 two days after her 16th birthday, according to Connecticut newspapers. She is now 50 years old.
At the time, she was immediately fired from her job as a receptionist at the cathedral. The then-reverend was placed on a leave of absence.

When the story erupted in 2002, DeShan was already teaching in Cinnaminson. He had remarried and had two children with another woman.
Despite the scandalous affair, DeShan was not fired.

Complimented teen student's eyes
DeShan's controversial past reemerged in 2015 after he complimented a female student's "pretty green eyes," according to the commissioner's report.
The girl said the comments made her feel uncomfortable.

However, DeShan continued to argue in October 2023 that there was no evidence he had engaged in conduct unbecoming of a teacher.

School board tried to revoke tenure
In 2019, the school board sought to remove DeShan. However, an arbitrator for the state Department of Education ruled that DeShan must be allowed to continue teaching.
DeShan said at the time that he should not be punished for "pre-employment conduct" that had already been addressed.

The decision, which has been overturned, said the complaint in 2015 was hearsay. There was no record of who the girl reported the compliment to, whether it was investigated, or how the compliment disrupted her education.

A Change.org petition started in 2019 calling for DeShan's firing gained nearly 750 signatures. That was not enough to sway the arbitrator.

ā€œThe fact that some parents now demand his removal from the classroom does not give the BOE a second opportunity to revisit pre-employment conduct of which it has been long aware," the 2019 decision said
 
Reason: Of course it was a Catholic priest LMFAO
It's also why I find it unrealsitc that anyone outside the kiwisphere would dump thousands of dollars in to his warchest there isn't anyone beyond Turkeytom that he hasn't burnt the bridge with.

1) The donations to the legal crowdfunder are anonymous, so Null doesn't know who's donating to him and 2) Turkey Tom already has a thread on KF where they constantly drag him and his girlfriend. By your logic Turkey Tom should be one of the very last people to want to donate to Null just because he was a thread. Yet Turkey Tom doesn't seem to care that he has a thread where strangers are disparaging his girlfriend all day long.

Are you perhaps familiar with the Youtuber Jeremy/The Quartering? I have mentioned him here on OF before. Jeremy is Sektur-adjacent and used to be on Livestreams with Null and other Sektur people during #GamerGate. Unlike a lot of Sektur people who fell into the margins, The Quartering has over a million subs on Youtube. He mentioned #DropKiwiFarms when it happened in 2022 in a video. Clearly he's not too worried about getting a KF thread. In fact, I suspect The Quartering would DDoS KF more effectively than the troons do just by pointing his million+ fans there.

Now, how likely is it that The Quartering was one of the people who chipped in and gave Null a large amount? Given that The Quartering already came down on the side of KF in a video during the campaign? I mean, really, who other than multi-millionaire Youtubers like The Quartering and Keemstar who run big Drama channels would think that something like KF is worth salvaging?

You've offered an argument for why Youtubers would want to avoid donating to Null... but you still haven't pointed out another possible large donor. Who else would give 5 figures to Null? Michelle Malkin, that same Philippino woman who supports Nick Fuentes? Kanye West? Who?
 
) Turkey Tom already has a thread on KF where they constantly drag him and his girlfriend. By your logic Turkey Tom should be one of the very last people to want to donate to Null just because he was a thread. Yet Turkey Tom doesn't seem to care that he has a thread where strangers are disparaging his girlfriend all day long.
That just tells us he is smart enough to not mention his thread being that he probably knows what happens to people who do. He could hate his thread for all we know.
 
That just tells us he is smart enough to not mention his thread being that he probably knows what happens to people who do. He could hate his thread for all we know.
He at least has common sense most of the time.
 
Null gets in a slap fight with some guy of 8chan fame and runs to his sycophant users for validation after being disagreed with by Short Fat Otaku on twitter.
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Can you imagine if any other user ran in and went "hey I just had a fight with some guy on tweeter what a loser amirite?" They'd be laughed out of the thread and told NYPA.
 
Null gets in a slap fight with some guy of 8chan fame and runs to his sycophant users for validation after being disagreed with by Short Fat Otaku on twitter.
You sniped me. My take was: It's funny, the Kwiffar were blaming the CIA for ddosing the site when the whole Janke thing happened, because her Dad worked for the government. Blimey, that seems so long ago doesn't it? It's all about the troons, nowadays...

As for SFO, the broom think's this town is too small for two fat, creepy, autistic voices talking shit on the intraweb.
 
You sniped me. My take was: It's funny, the Kwiffar were blaming the CIA for ddosing the site when the whole Janke thing happened, because her Dad worked for the government. Blimey, that seems so long ago doesn't it? It's all about the troons, nowadays...

As for SFO, the broom think's this town is too small for two fat, creepy, autistic voices talking shit on the intraweb.
I'll take SFO's Steven Universe cosplay over Null's creepy male feminist with anger issues cosplay.
 
That's right all those features are all Neotonous so if you find any of them attractive you are a pedo man sorry I don't make the rules Null does.
Women shave their body hair to appeal to pedos too, everyone knows all white men are racist sexist pedos except ones that like real hairy women.
 
You sniped me. My take was: It's funny, the Kwiffar were blaming the CIA for ddosing the site when the whole Janke thing happened, because her Dad worked for the government. Blimey, that seems so long ago doesn't it? It's all about the troons, nowadays...

As for SFO, the broom think's this town is too small for two fat, creepy, autistic voices talking shit on the intraweb.
I love it when they just (falsely) assume anyone who got under their skin is someone else who got under their skin, inadvertently power leveling their trauma.
 
Now, how likely is it that The Quartering was one of the people who chipped in and gave Null a large amount? Given that The Quartering already came down on the side of KF in a video during the campaign? I mean, really, who other than multi-millionaire Youtubers like The Quartering and Keemstar who run big Drama channels would think that something like KF is worth salvaging?

You've offered an argument for why Youtubers would want to avoid donating to Null... but you still haven't pointed out another possible large donor. Who else would give 5 figures to Null?
The Quartering is pretty milquetoast. KF is likely too extreme for him to risk supporting that much.

My personal theory is Null give 5 figures to himself through one or more sockpuppet accounts to inspire people to make large donations. A close runner up is one I saw elsewhere on here, that glowies of an undetermined country did it.
 
Things not looking so hot for the lawsuit fund.
Null explains that the funds are unaccessible until he pays the fees on for the IOLTA however because of it way it is set up it is illegal to take money from the IOLTA to pay the fee.

Several things here.
1. Why can't you use other money like that crypto you just got to pay the fees?
2. shouldn't your hot shot lawyer have been prepared for this?
3. There is no way there is some kind of legal fund which exists totally on a catch 22 basis where you can neither access the money or pay the fees this doesn't make sense.

Clearly there is something Null or his lawyer isn't doing to make this happen. At this point I have to wonder if he is just stalling in the hopes that people forget and he can pocket the money.

Ultimately Null tries to shill crypto for more untrackable donos.
This whole thing is such a scam, lol
 
Because anime is drawn with as he puts it "Neo-Natal" features. Now anyone who isn't retarded realizes that Neo-Natal means Newborn infant.
This is null whenever he tries to sound smart.
that doesn't mean all anime are like that
There are wholesome animes and anime for preschoolers. He thinks even something soul wrenching like Grave of the Fireflies is pedophilic because a flash of underwear that no one else even noticed.
Yeah there are plenty of anime that draw mostly non neotenous characters. Most popular example would probably be DBZ. But there are ones that like to do more realistic looking characters like cowboy bebop.
Jojo too, especially the first 3 seasons.
Null got mad and pink triangled android raptor for this thread and SHUT IT DOWN!
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Poor android. Let her rage about church sex abuse and reproductive rights. There's worse things she could care about.
Clearly he's not too worried about getting a KF thread.
He has one already.
Null gets in a slap fight with some guy of 8chan fame and runs to his sycophant users for validation after being disagreed with by Short Fat Otaku on twitter.
SFO posted on KF as a regular user for a while. I forget if he ended up banned or just stopped using it.
The Quartering is pretty milquetoast. KF is likely too extreme for him to risk supporting that much.
He said about #dropkiwifarms that he doesn't like it but defends its right to exist. Rare Quartering W.
 
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