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Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt said:
There is a thread on Matthew Hardin and from reading that thread you get the impression that Hardin isn't really the litigator type. I imagine that in order to procure the type of win in a defamation suit that would be Null's dream settlement, you would have to be a pretty tough litigator in court. Only a minority of lawyers are litigators.

Here is an article by a law firm on the harsh reality of being a successful litigator
https://www.gojolaw.com/private/policy/qualifications_for_employment.html
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Gotta give you credit for reading all that. I sure as fuck didn't.
 
Nektar Geist said:
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I've got to assume that "Wooly's" is Woolworth's. Woolies is a name I've not heard for years. There are Brit who are very nostalgic for that shop. Sweets, crap clothes and cheap records (as in, I did quite well getting 7"s like Birdhouse in your Soul for 50p, also got the etched 12" of Jesus Christ Pose. Aussie's are just crass, criminal gene'd brits. ANd remember... NO POOFTAHS!
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Woolworths (woolies not "wooly's" illiterate retard null) is just a regular supermarket, it isn't the same as the British woolies. I think the name is just coincidental but I could be wrong on that.

Nektar Geist said:
An irony: The limeys will always bang on about how shit American sweets are. Ignoring the fact that the two most famous here... you guessed it, are Snickers (Marathon in UK for many years) and the Mars Bar, both American products.
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The UK versions use proper Cadbury's chocolate though not mutt vomit chocolate, so are objectively better.

roko araneo juniora said:
Honestly , Null's palate should've been called into question when he started singing the praises of Subway years before his cheese jihad
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Well you now null shares TWO things with Jared from Subway.
 
The Gays From LA said:
Featured on Apr 9, 2021 at 8:05 AM: The OnlyFans Era: How we have to deal with digital whores moving forward.

OnlyFans whores are ruining the entire fucking world. If you are on OnlyFans you are worth less than shit to me. Whores deserve nothing. I pray that God exists if only so whores will burn in hell.

That said, a lot of this whore drama is now on the site. A lot of lolcows are becoming whores. Here is a guideline for dealing with the legalities this presents. I will try to refine this so that any retard can understand it.


1. Search engines really do not like 'nonconsensual pornography'.
Surprise: This applies to consensual pornography, sold as product, hosted for critical review elsewhere.
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The terfs really think this guy is a great friend to the ladies.
 
Nektar Geist said:
No. They don't. Cadbury's is a different company. The aforementioned snacks are made by Mars. Just put shame in your confectionary name.
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Oh yeah turns out you're right that they're owned by mars not Cadbury's (for some reason I thought one of them had bought the other)

Turns out the mars bar was invented in England, and the UK original still don't use gross vomit chocolate.

So I guess the yanks are eating an inferior version of a great British treat and being smug about it. Sad, many such cases.
 
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The Gays From LA said:
Here's the Rekieta clip I got the above screenshots from:

Null's cult-of-personality stans are in the comments making fun of Rekieta, when he's making some very good points actually.

Are Kiwis reading these comments from people disputing Null's defamation claims underneath the Rekieta clip? I guess not:
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Null claims that the xeet where Epik said "the US authorities forced us to take action" was defamatory because it implied that Null was either a suspect or being investigated... but why does Null read into this reference to "US Authorities" that HE is the implied suspect? (Guilty conscience?)
I wonder, has Null considered the possibility that Epik might have reached out to LE about the screenshots because they wanted to report the person that was in those screenshots, not Null himself? Not everything has to be about you, Null. You have a lot of gross people profiled on your forum that LE might wanna look into. If you and your users are uploading all kinds of "receipts" about these people but not actually reporting them to LE, your ISP might do that themselves, once they've realized the kind of people you and your users are profiling on your forum. What if Epik had received a report concerning the thread about the GoonClown (which is also full of public admissions of pedophilia on his part AND has a video of him masturbating while admitting to being a pedo) Epik reported the thread to the FBI, then xeeted about complying with "US Authorities"? How would that be defamatory?

If I was working at Epik's abuse department and I had received screenshots of what someone claimed was CP, I'd immediately forward the entire abuse report with all of the screenshots to LE, just to be safe. Is the likelihood of Epik doing that really so unusual and outrageous to Null?

Here's another possible scenario: What if Epik had received the screenshots, weren't sure what to do, so they contacted LE for advice on how to proceed lawfully, and it was LE who told Epik, "You must take down whatever website those pictures are on to stop the distribution of potential/suspected/alleged CP"? Is Epik engaged in defamation by stating they did whatever LE told them to do?

These are all possible scenarios, but it's Null who insists that there was no involvement from "US Authorities" and that "Epik admitted this [claim of LE involvement] was a lie". The fact is, Null simply doesn't know if there was any contact at all between "US Authorities" and Epik about the screenshots or anything else on his forum. However, if Epik, in good faith, believed that the initial abuse report concerned potential or suspected CP on a customer's website, more likely than not they would've contacted LE about it, whether they notified Null of this or not.

Is there truly no one left on KF who can explain these things to Null?
Can no one explain to Null that it's perfectly normal and customary for an ISP to contact LE when they've received an abuse report about potential CP on a customer's forum? That this doesn't mean the ISP has any malice towards Null as an individual, but they're just trying to follow the law when dealing with such material being reported to them?

Null has become a monomaniacal one-track mind who has surrounded himself with yes-men and cheerleaders who dare not challenge him on anything.
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Josh said he couldn't listen to Rekieta because he sounded "too smug" in the first minute or so, but there was some very salient points he made about the courts will interpret the wordings of the tweets. Josh's lawyer might be pulling a Ty Beard and telling him things he wants to hear for a payday instead of being realistic with his chances of victory.
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These statements from Josh were extra funny given last year he was giving the same advice to Rekieta in regards to his lawsuit with Montagraph, stating that Rekieta not using the word "probably" will greatly effect the case and how the court will interpret his words.
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Mad at the Internet (September 5th, 2023)

https://tip.mati.live
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In case people forget, Rekieta is being sued for "defamation per se" which is the method Josh is using to try to sue Epik and others.
 
Imagine taking null seriously about starting a bank. Imagine null running a bank. Telling customers to kill themselves, ordering pizza everyday, fighting over cheese...
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I guess null has zero financial incentive:
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Null states on the latest MATI he will be taking a break because he is ever so tired of having to "run all over the place and talk on the phone for four hours." He seethes and bitches more than usual this episode. You'd think a guy who just got a boatload of money would be happy.
Gee he gets a bunch of money and immediately plans a vacation. Lol no refunds suckers.

Also during this episode Null describes how he is going to start filing FOIA requests and suing if they arent complied with. He also reveals that the Hardin guy his lawyer is an expert in this kind of thing. :story:

Looking very highly like this was a scam cooked up by Null and his lawyer to secure the seed capital to start some FOIA grift. He seems waaay more interested in this than his prospective lawsuit against epik.
 
The Didl/Null question gets brought up. Lol we were just talking about this, strange huh?
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1. No direct denial
2. Null has said before that KF is basically his entire social circle, it's near impossible to believe he isn't speaking to some of them in private
3. Believing Null has a cat is CrAzIeR than Didl who knows Null's every step down to the second to the point where people think "she" is either Null or a murderously obsessed stalker
4. Null is certain Lidl is a "she" I've seen him use his famous "they" for users he isn't sure of.
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Well this is not saying I am a proponent of thsi theory but it would mean he almost certainly isn't abroad as he probably wouldn't risk the complications of moving a pet across countries.
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lol
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...And Didl comes in seeming to know why Null is not freaked out by "her" zoophile Kathy Bates schtick... Curious for a guy who "doesn't speak to anyone privately his intentions are well known to a select few.
 
He's referring to me, BTW I was the one who first claimed he had a secret cat, now he's denying it. I don't know who the user "theorizing that Hardin doesn't exist" is but it's telling that he's putting me in the same category as whomever that is. Clearly he's mad because I am pointing out his bullshit with him claiming that Epik and Caraballo deliberately defamed him when they xeeted out about alleged CP on KF.

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Tag you favorite/most hated users?
I don't speak to any Kiwi Farms user in private or off-site (besides two guys who help with tech problems). If you think she's weird, wait until you see the people I've banned who are currently theorizing Matthew Hardin doesn't exist and I keep a secret cat.
Null · Post #16 · Yesterday at 10:16 PM · Forum: Q&A

Tag you favorite/most hated users?
But I don't have a kitty
Null · Post #19 · Yesterday at 10:43 PM · Forum: Q&A

Tag you favorite/most hated users?
I have absolutely no idea why they would be upset that I have a cat or why they think I would feel the need to keep it secret, which is why that rumor is so funny.
Null · Post #22 · Yesterday at 11:03 PM · Forum: Q&A
https://kiwifarmsaaf4t2h7gc3dfc5ojh...avorite-most-hated-users.183094/post-17722498 Archived: https://archive.is/CDCmo#selection-1665.0-1665.163
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"I don't speak to any Kiwi Farms user in private or off-site", but you will talk to your users off-site to fuck them, you practically admitted as much on MATI. Your own users picked up on your hypocrisy, because previously you'd told them you'd never date a forum user, only recant on your promise to keep your hands of your users:


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BTW you guys, Null really does have a cat, he accidentally showed his cat on MATI.
Here's Null's cat calling him a faggot on his own podcast:

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The Gays From LA said:
What is Null's policy on KiwiFarms users cross-posting porn and other types of obscenity under the guise of "fair use criticism"? Are Null and his users "porno-laundering" under the guise of promoting an anti-LGBT agenda? A detailed analysis showing the receipts (Null in his own words).



Let's look at these questions:

-What is "porno-laundering"? (aka the "porn stops being porn when it's crossposted to KF" argument)

-What did Null have to say about people using KiwiFarms for "porno-laundering"? (Null will actually ban users if he suspects porno-laundering!)

-Was Null instructing his users to add written criticism to porn uploads, as a pretext for "porno-laundering"?

-What's Null's policy on users cross-posting porn on KF to deny porn actors an income? (the "whores get nothing" argument)

- Null will remove users uploading .zips of pirated games deliberately onto KF to deny game devs an income... but not pirated porn?

I personally believe that Null was knowingly violating Epik's ToS barring obscenity, and I believe he was hoping to get away with it based on his previous backroom deal with Brian Royce. This is just my personal opinion based on what I have seen so far.

I was listening to this Livestream, and at this part the two people talking mention SRS or bottom surgery results being unrealistic. They recommend to their viewers that they visit the Stinkditch thread on KiwiFarms, which is basically the KF equivalent of the old /r/NeovaginaDisasters thread on Reddit:


Is Null going to deny that this thread exists on KF and that this thread would constitute a violation of Epik's ToS clause against any kind of obscenity? Or is he going to edge-case about this and say that "we are posting images of medical malpractice to denounce trans butchery, not to show REAL vaginas". Does that matter to the coomers who browse the farms looking exactly for this type of material?

Also, with the proliferation of "trans teens" having surgery at younger and younger ages (some even having their dicks cut off at 16, like Jazz Jennings)... how does Null and the TERFs who frequent the Stinkditch thread know that the examples of /r/NeovaginaDisasters posted in their thread aren't pictures of actual "trans teens" who had their genitals mangled? Or do they think that they, as adults, get to oogle at a legal minor's destroyed genitals, just because they're doing it in the name of their Righteous Quest of exposing the evil LGBT?

Null's argument is that he and his users should be allowed to cross-post porn - especially LGBT porn - to KF because they are not presenting these people in the original context, ie, as "pornographic" - as sexy and desirable - but rather in the new context of KF, where they are presented as monstrous, degenerate, disgusting, predatory and contemptible. Since everyone on KF either shares or is expected to share Null's anti-LGBT agenda, this is how those images are going to be read in their new context on KF. This is what I refer to as the "porn stops being porn when it's cross-posted to KF" argument.

I would also argue that this argument is complete bullshit because:

1) Null has no idea who is browsing his forum and for what purpose (Null cannot logically assume that everyone on KF shares his anti-LGBT agenda or is browsing the forum in that spirit)

2) Null himself let the degenerate predators of 16chan.nl's /phile board know that they were welcome on KF, when he openly stated he was pondering creating a new "pedophile containment" thread on KF. Thus Null himself has given out mixed messages about who's allowed onto KF.

3) Null knew that his users were just dumping their porn folders onto KF, having banned a user for doing that. Null also instructed his users to not just upload porn images "as is" but to write reviews of the porn they were uploading, so Null could later claim these images were cross-posted in the name of fair use criticism.

The receipts (Null in his own words):

Here is the 2021 post in question where Null wrote: "This is how you write a post, using private tags, so that the content is discoverable and the post will easily endure a copyright infringement claim.". Null also made it known that he was aware of the fact that he was on legal shaky ground by allowing his users to cross-post porn onto KF: "Search engines really do not like 'nonconsensual pornography'. Surprise: This applies to consensual pornography, sold as product, hosted for critical review elsewhere."




Here's Null asking Kiwis in the Soyjak.Party / The Sharty thread not to post CP or CSAM onto KF:



Here is Null banning someone from the Porncows thread for appearing to dump their porn folder onto KF, which according to Null contained "the most suspect shit imaginable. I hate Japan and I hate coomers":





Here's Null approving a take down request because he agreed that someone had cross-posted a .zip of a full game to KF to deny the maker money: "The message included a statement that someone had "bought the game for everyone else to enjoy without having to give him a cent". This does not meet fair use."



If goes without saying that Null would've never responded similarly if someone had contacted him about taking down the cross-posted porn on his forum.



Here's Null in the Nick Rekieta thread, linking to his "how to cross-post porn to KF under the guise of fair use criticism" tutorial, while again instructing Kiwis to cut large videos into chunks and write criticism about each video segment before uploading them to KF:





To conclude, I do not think that porn stops being porn just because it's cross-posted to KF to be "criticized". Null can shout at his users all he wants, warning them to not to use KF for "porno-laundering", banning them for doing so, but such porno-laundering is kind of inevitable given the nature of the website. The content on KF is intended to shock and disgust the reader/viewer, and almost nothing arouses the kind of shock and disgust on KF that porn does. Therefore, I predict there will continue to be "porno-laundering" on KF, regardless of Null's efforts to stop this.

The fact that Null has to instruct his users to write reviews of the porn they are cross-posting to KF shows that Null was aware of the fact that such material could get him into legal trouble, so he had to remind his users to create the bare minimum pretense of fair use criticism for Null to be able to justify his users uploading such obscenity to KF.

Clearly Epik was not persuaded by such "bare minimum" efforts at meeting the fair use standard.

So nope, sorry, can't have your cake and eat it. If an ISP says "no obscenity" in their ToS, don't try to bypass their rules through a shady backroom deal with the CEO. You should respect their ToS and go find another ISP that does allow you to post all the obscenity you want in the name of your anti-LGBT crusade.

Owner Of Largest Adult Content Website Was DEFENSE ATTORNEY For Child Abusers
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I also think it’s so funny how Josh has never been against lolicon but everyone on kiwi screams about it being CP. But no lord Jersh isn’t a pedo, that’s not true! (Reposting some relevant things I’m referring to)

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And speaking of all this, do we have a thread dedicated to Josh being sus as fuck about CP?
 
Pepe the Toad said:
Pedophiles don't care about emotionally connecting with their victims because it's a paraphilia and the kid is just an object of fetishism, nothing more. If you've ever seen to catch a predator, when they're in the grooming stage none of those guys are trying to talk about any mature things like politics or sports with their targets and usually don't care about the kid's personal life unless it's a way to flatter them. They want to feel power from owning and corrupting something innocent and move on. When they're not in that mode trying to satisfy the fetish most of those guys masquerade as normal heterosexual men. Something else Null shares with many of those pedos is sexual arrested development, he's in his 30's now and he's still a virgin right? If he ever did manage to have sex he still isn't capable of sustaining a mature relationship. That "I'm too old for this shit" post he wrote when he was 27 is funny because it reads like a 12 year old's idea of what marriage is. "Me and my wife are going to have traditional gender roles and I will be breadwinner and we will fight the LGBT agenda by being a perfect heterosexual couple". The only place I've seen something like that is in fundamentalist churches and you know what they have high rates of.


But more damning than that is his lifelong comfortable proximity to csam. FBI agents who analyze csam are so fucked up by it they usually need years of therapy, but have you ever seen Josh pained or remorseful over any of this? A non-pedo would have left the 8chan job where they'd be forced to look at that stuff to the point they're memorizing faces. When he and the creepy little monster started getting news attention for that content he wasn't mad at himself and mad he'd participated in a project like that, he was mad that he was receiving criticism. Notably he's said what got them in trouble with 8chan was allowing pictures of kids, so just post the text stuff on 16chan okay guys?

A non-pedo would reason that he's doing something wrong by encouraging guys who get off on that to come post there, which he has always justified as part of his righteous libertarian values which is a fucked up red flag if you think about it even a little. Especially when you consider how loose he is about free speech when it comes to silencing people who say things that piss him off personally. A non-pedo would reason that if your political ideology is making explicit allowances for guys who are psyching themselves up to kidnap and rape a kid, maybe that ideology is anti-social and worthless and you should be ashamed to claim those are your beliefs. He's even said he would reopen phile if there was"demand" for it. So if you sass Josh you're banned but if you have detailed fantasies of stabbing a 5 year old and raping the hole, he will work tirelessly to carve you out a little special place on the internet to talk about it and listen to your criticism of the job he's doing for you. Sorry but there's no way anyone would do that unless they're also excited by that material. I would wager 99.9% of people have never seen csam in their life so what is Josh doing right?

This is all made more suspect by the fact he's appointed himself witchhunter general for troons and will rant for hours on MATI about how he views them as animals. So a Harvard graduate with a normal life like Carabello is beyond redemption but Josh will work to allow free speech for literal kid touchers. Something does not add up.
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Look, I totally agree that Null's posts about his proximity to online pedophiles are sus at best, at worst point to something dark that might have been happening behind the scenes. Which is why I posted them, to remind Null that he already had a public reputation that was in the gutter for being "soft on pedophiles", and that people have been criticizing Null over this for years. Instead of taking that critique to heart, Null doubled down and let the pedos know they were welcome onto the Farms as late as 2018, as long as they followed "my rules", whatever that means (does that mean using spoiler tags and writing half-assed reviews to meet the fair use criticism standard?). It's extremely disingenuous for Null to pretend that his reputation was ruined by Epik's xeets or Caraballo's rexeet, who obviously knows everything there is to know about Null's past. Null reputation was already ruined years and years ago, when he decided to "contain" pedophiles on his IB instead of banning them outright. Even Rekieta knew about /phile and mentioned it while discussing the prospects of Null's defamation per se lolsuits (Rekieta misattributes /phile to 8chan, when it was on 16chan, but he's obviously drunk here so he can't tell the two IBs apart):


"I feel like I have heard Josh talk about it... in terms of 8chan. Right? Cos he had to create a specific board for these weirdos who kept uploading pictures, and not have pictures available. He has talked about that."
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However, I am not going to cherry-pick information to promote this "Null is a pedophile hiding in plain sight" talking-point that everyone seems to want to promote. For one, Null eventually denounced his previous libertarian views on on free speech, for example on this MATI episode. I don't have the specific time stamp anymore but I'm pretty sure this was the episode where Null denounced libertarian free speech extremism:

Do Libertarians have Souls? (May 21st, 2021) - Mad at the Internet
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Do Libertarians have Souls? (May 21st, 2021) - Mad at the Internet

https://madattheinternet.com/2021/05/21/do-libertarians-have-souls/
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At the end of day I don't have any evidence of Null himself being a pedophile. I am not going to accuse someone of being a pedophile on the basis of an admission of EPE, like people are doing with the Blockland posts. I don't think a teenager seeking out Neko Shota or hurtcore is being a pedophile, because this is not something kids would seek out on their own, unless it was a case of EPE. I would suspect a teenager seeking out such materials has likely been groomed by online pedophiles - and Null admitted in his Deviantart essay to talking to pedophiles as a teenager, only he called it an "internet adventure", because he's too proud and arrogant to think of himself as a victim of grooming. I am shocked by Null's post about having apparently seen to much CP as a moderator that he insists can tell the children apart in such images. That to me is a terrible admission on his part, and it's only made more terrible by Null casually mentioning it like it's some 6th spidey sense he has acquired as a mod. I am shocked at Null casually mentioning he has a large enough collection of CP that he can use to train image recognition software with, as per the Project Exodus developer page. I think Null deliberately presents himself as someone who is extremely desensitized and unflappable as part of his Internet Tough Guy persona. Which is why Null will never admit to being a victim of EPE and grooming, because that would make him seem weak and vulnerable and he has to be a tough motherfucker and on top of everything at all times.

Please do not misunderstand me. I don't feel sorry for Null. Null wants to be an asshole and to be treated as one because it makes him feel like an underdog, and his stupid followers fall for his shtick. He's plainly dysfunctional and is using far-right ideology as an excuse for being an asshole. It's literally this fucking juvenile: "It's the jews/blacks/globohomos who made me this way.". No, just STFU, you decided to be hateful and cranky. Also, stop using other people like Rekieta as a shield for your stupid fucking trad-LARP, because you are too cowardly to show everyone what your real life is really like. Null was hoping to control Rekieta by bringing him into the Sektur and keeping him there, but now that Rekieta has outgrown the Sektur, Null can't stand it that he can't use the Sektur as a threat against Rekieta. All Rekieta has to do is wait for the next celebrity lolsuit bandwagon that all the Youtube lawyers will hop on, and he'll be hitting millions of views again and then he'll be like, "Null who? KiwiFarms what?".

Hell, even Rekieta might go sober and return to form to cover the shitshow of Null's lolsuit if those were to happen, LMAO! That would be the biggest win of this, Rekieta ditching the alcoholism to report on his former friend's lawfarring against the TRAs.
 
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