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Joshua Moon the owner of Kiwifarms
Looks like the dono money has given the broom some dutch courage. This is: 1st grader "Buuuuut Miiiissss, they were dooooinit tooooo!" If the Gods of Nectar are kind... televised trial. I'm not really sure, y'know... there is a possible arc: The having to get a suit and tie AND GROWN UP SHOES arc. That is what I think Zhen's undoing was. He was just too shit scared to turn up.

What are the chances, if it did go to court, joshy would fold faster than if I socked him in the bread basket.
it's funny because his grifting site also uses cloudflare :story:. the pot calling the kettle black.
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Here's the "Notice of Suspension and Prohibited Content Violation" that Null had received from Epik telling him they were going to discontiue service ("suspension of your domain kiwifarms.net") due to a ToS violation ("specifically regarding the presence of prohibited content on your website").

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Epik didn't provide a link to the "prohibited content", but I guess their xeet of the screenshots of the Telegram pedo were meant to specify what the "prohibited content" actually was. There's nothing in this notice about any involvement from US authorities.

Null, in the same post where he shared the above notice, went on to claim that Epik has been "stealing millions of dollars of domains from bulk buyers", that he was aware of them doing this, that he knows they went back to stealing domains after their reorganization... but despite knowing about this, Null still shouted them out as "one of the good guys keeping the internet together", because Null was receiving preferential treatment from Epik's leader at the time:

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This is such a great example of Null's casual gaslighting and 180 degree pivots. Epik was "one of the good guys keeping the internet together", until they decided that KF was a liability because of the ToS-violating "prohibited content" on the forum, then Epik became "an industry lolcow shitshow... stealing millions of dollars worth of domains... stealing domains again.". Which is it, Null? Are you sure you are the one getting defamed here?

Apparently Null thinks it's a good look for him to go into court and admit that this forum was tolerated on Epik purely on the basis some private Gentlemen's Agreement he had with Brian Royce. Null always complains about LFJ being able to get his way at ISPs through his Google connections and secret backroom deals with other tech industry troons & trannie chasers who hate KF... but isn't Null's handshake agreement with Brian Royce also a backroom deal? Imagine accusing someone of being nepotistic only to admit you're nepotisticAF yourself.

Anyways, no one is gonna talk some sense into Null, all the sensible people have left KF, Null has seen the green, he wants that out-of-court settlement, that sweet sweet fuck-off money from Epik and the TRAs so he can return to the US, knock up Lidl Drip and raise some Amerimutt butt-babies together in Vidor, TX.

Here's the Rekieta clip I got the above screenshots from:


Null's cult-of-personality stans are in the comments making fun of Rekieta, when he's making some very good points actually.

Are Kiwis reading these comments from people disputing Null's defamation claims underneath the Rekieta clip? I guess not:

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Null claims that the xeet where Epik said "the US authorities forced us to take action" was defamatory because it implied that Null was either a suspect or being investigated... but why does Null read into this reference to "US Authorities" that HE is the implied suspect? (Guilty conscience?)

I wonder, has Null considered the possibility that Epik might have reached out to LE about the screenshots because they wanted to report the person that was in those screenshots, not Null himself? Not everything has to be about you, Null. You have a lot of gross people profiled on your forum that LE might wanna look into. If you and your users are uploading all kinds of "receipts" about these people but not actually reporting them to LE, your ISP might do that themselves, once they've realized the kind of people you and your users are profiling on your forum. What if Epik had received a report concerning the thread about the GoonClown (which is also full of public admissions of pedophilia on his part AND has a video of him masturbating while admitting to being a pedo) Epik reported the thread to the FBI, then xeeted about complying with "US Authorities"? How would that be defamatory?

If I was working at Epik's abuse department and I had received screenshots of what someone claimed was CP, I'd immediately forward the entire abuse report with all of the screenshots to LE, just to be safe. Is the likelihood of Epik doing that really so unusual and outrageous to Null?

Here's another possible scenario: What if Epik had received the screenshots, weren't sure what to do, so they contacted LE for advice on how to proceed lawfully, and it was LE who told Epik, "You must take down whatever website those pictures are on to stop the distribution of potential/suspected/alleged CP"? Is Epik engaged in defamation by stating they did whatever LE told them to do?

These are all possible scenarios, but it's Null who insists that there was no involvement from "US Authorities" and that "Epik admitted this [claim of LE involvement] was a lie". The fact is, Null simply doesn't know if there was any contact at all between "US Authorities" and Epik about the screenshots or anything else on his forum. However, if Epik, in good faith, believed that the initial abuse report concerned potential or suspected CP on a customer's website, more likely than not they would've contacted LE about it, whether they notified Null of this or not.

Is there truly no one left on KF who can explain these things to Null?
Can no one explain to Null that it's perfectly normal and customary for an ISP to contact LE when they've received an abuse report about potential CP on a customer's forum? That this doesn't mean the ISP has any malice towards Null as an individual, but they're just trying to follow the law when dealing with such material being reported to them?

Null has become a monomaniacal one-track mind who has surrounded himself with yes-men and cheerleaders who dare not challenge him on anything.
 
Is there truly no one left on KF who can explain these things to Null?
Can no one explain to Null that it's perfectly normal and customary for an ISP to contact LE when they've received an abuse report about potential CP on a customer's forum? That this doesn't mean the ISP has any malice towards Null as an individual, but they're just trying to follow the law when dealing with such material being reported to them?

Null has become a monomaniacal one-track mind who has surrounded himself with yes-men and cheerleaders who dare not challenge him on anything.
You would think that just the history of defmation lawsuits we have seen on the internet would let these idiots know how hard this is going to be. They're still running off the high of making the goal.
 
Here's the Rekieta clip I got the above screenshots from:

Null's cult-of-personality stans are in the comments making fun of Rekieta, when he's making some very good points actually.

Are Kiwis reading these comments from people disputing Null's defamation claims underneath the Rekieta clip? I guess not:
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Null claims that the xeet where Epik said "the US authorities forced us to take action" was defamatory because it implied that Null was either a suspect or being investigated... but why does Null read into this reference to "US Authorities" that HE is the implied suspect? (Guilty conscience?)
I wonder, has Null considered the possibility that Epik might have reached out to LE about the screenshots because they wanted to report the person that was in those screenshots, not Null himself? Not everything has to be about you, Null. You have a lot of gross people profiled on your forum that LE might wanna look into. If you and your users are uploading all kinds of "receipts" about these people but not actually reporting them to LE, your ISP might do that themselves, once they've realized the kind of people you and your users are profiling on your forum. What if Epik had received a report concerning the thread about the GoonClown (which is also full of public admissions of pedophilia on his part AND has a video of him masturbating while admitting to being a pedo) Epik reported the thread to the FBI, then xeeted about complying with "US Authorities"? How would that be defamatory?

If I was working at Epik's abuse department and I had received screenshots of what someone claimed was CP, I'd immediately forward the entire abuse report with all of the screenshots to LE, just to be safe. Is the likelihood of Epik doing that really so unusual and outrageous to Null?

Here's another possible scenario: What if Epik had received the screenshots, weren't sure what to do, so they contacted LE for advice on how to proceed lawfully, and it was LE who told Epik, "You must take down whatever website those pictures are on to stop the distribution of potential/suspected/alleged CP"? Is Epik engaged in defamation by stating they did whatever LE told them to do?

These are all possible scenarios, but it's Null who insists that there was no involvement from "US Authorities" and that "Epik admitted this [claim of LE involvement] was a lie". The fact is, Null simply doesn't know if there was any contact at all between "US Authorities" and Epik about the screenshots or anything else on his forum. However, if Epik, in good faith, believed that the initial abuse report concerned potential or suspected CP on a customer's website, more likely than not they would've contacted LE about it, whether they notified Null of this or not.

Is there truly no one left on KF who can explain these things to Null?
Can no one explain to Null that it's perfectly normal and customary for an ISP to contact LE when they've received an abuse report about potential CP on a customer's forum? That this doesn't mean the ISP has any malice towards Null as an individual, but they're just trying to follow the law when dealing with such material being reported to them?

Null has become a monomaniacal one-track mind who has surrounded himself with yes-men and cheerleaders who dare not challenge him on anything.
Josh said he couldn't listen to Rekieta because he sounded "too smug" in the first minute or so, but there was some very salient points he made about the courts will interpret the wordings of the tweets. Josh's lawyer might be pulling a Ty Beard and telling him things he wants to hear for a payday instead of being realistic with his chances of victory.
 
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Josh said he couldn't listen to Rekieta because he sounded "too smug" in the first minute or so, but there was some very salient points he made about the courts will interpret the wordings of the tweets. Josh's lawyer might be pulling a Ty Beard and telling him things he wants to hear for a payday instead of being realistic with his chances of victory.
Sun Tzu say: If you enemy smug, might be good idea to find out why.
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Josh's lawyer might be pulling a Ty Beard and telling him things he wants to hear for a payday instead of being realistic with his chances of victory

Null's lawyer might have tried to show null that it was a fruitless exercise with little chance of success but Josh gonna Josh so now he's going along with it. Can you imagine trying to explain to null why he's wrong about something?
 
Null's lawyer might have tried to show null that it was a fruitless exercise with little chance of success but Josh gonna Josh so now he's going along with it. Can you imagine trying to explain to null why he's wrong about something?
Yeah the last time Null dealt with him was the last Russel Greer suit and he has become a lot more neurotic and controlling since then. He also probably thinks he can just throw this money at the problem and it ill go away quickly while repeating a bunch of stuff he half heard from the vic lasagna case and others. Ya it must suck to be that lawyer.
 
Null's lawyer might have tried to show null that it was a fruitless exercise with little chance of success but Josh gonna Josh so now he's going along with it. Can you imagine trying to explain to null why he's wrong about something?
I feel like there's someone else in Joshs ear, the way he flipped out at that random Twitter account was not like him. Was it?
 
Josh said he couldn't listen to Rekieta because he sounded "too smug" in the first minute or so, but there was some very salient points he made about the courts will interpret the wordings of the tweets. Josh's lawyer might be pulling a Ty Beard and telling him things he wants to hear for a payday instead of being realistic with his chances of victory.
I mean, 100k lootbox right there up for grabs, who wouldnt want a piece of that kiwipie especially cherub like creatures (lawyers)
 
The most delicious part of this will be watching Null's house of cards fall apart and his lawyer telling him to get lost.
You think the kwiffar won't drown in cope trying to justify Josh grifting? Even when it turns out he's just walked off with the cash, they'll say it was worth it for all the "work" he did or something.
 
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