Yes I would say parts of it are true. But Null embellished it and added on bits and pieces to make a nice entertaining little story of him being the lonely freedom fighter.
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Joshua Moon the owner of Kiwifarms
I will soon post an example of LFJ hitting up a personal contact within Zayo France to get KF blocked by Zayo. You will see how LFJ does this and how having a sympathetic insider on the inside of a backbone gets you very far when it comes to targeting your enemies.
Quite the opposite actually. LFJ was constantly being interviewed and appearing on podcasts about the #DropKiwiFarms campaign:
Like I have said repeatedly on this forum, Keffals was just the public face of the campaign. The brains behind #DropKiwiFarms was Liz Fong-Jones, and since Keffals is a mentally ill drug addict who can barely talk, it was eventually LFJ that journalists began to contact and interview to get the insider scoop on the campaign.
That's not the point. The point Null is making in his statement is that LFJ is using a google.com address, which is just a legacy address since he's no longer actually associated with that company, to social engineer other companies and ISP into assuming that they are being contacted by an actual Google employee. Whoever receives that e-mail just sees @google.com and assumes it's legit someone from Google.
That's nothing new, he had posted similar things on KF naming Liz Fong-Jones while #DropKiwiFarms was still happening. For example:
Null had already named Liz Fong-Jones on his Twitter account and on MATI back in 2019 when Liz had successfully targeted one of Null's e-mail service providers at the time:
So no, whatever Null said in his latest statement is just a repetition of things he has already said before. As is usual of these campaigns, you have to repeat these things many many times for all the people in the back.
Syntaxius
Baby Onion
So how is LFJ still not persona non grata'd in the tech industry?
People are okay with these insanely immoral tactics? I understand some CEOs caving in, especially at first when they're the only ones affected, but at some point you'd expect the people in the industry to either tell LFJ to fuck off, or atleast to stop giving in to his tactics....
Null may aswel stop talking about alt-tech and whatever flavour of the week platform he thinks should be supported to fix this, people in the tech industry just need to get a spine, apparantly.
Easy as shit to get the names of people. Vordrak has been employing this strategy for years and has continued to post this information throughout #dropkiwifarms. If you're familiar with how Vordrak works, he'll outline illegal strategies and then finish with a weak disclaimer.
Rob Tyree of Fiberhub/VegasNAP is one of the people whose family was affected by it. He posted about it on Twitter at the time. Various people involved with #dropkiwifarms were publishing information about KF service providers as fast as they found it.
It's fine to say that tech companies just need to get a spine, but if they're large they have to answer to shareholders (we think this might be the reason Matthew Prince from Cloudflare did a rapid about face - the same couple of institutional investors are the major shareholders in most large tech companies, which gives them enormous influence). If they're small and privately owned, then they're vulnerable both to having their own service providers dump them and to having customers abandon them.
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Sue Lightning
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I saw this on Kiwifarms. Any lurking kiwis please note the onionfarms have no rules against telephone phone harassment. because they are evil sodimites. Stay strong lurking kiwis don't make an account and text patrick tomlinson like @Empresa did.
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I have read Vordrak's blog, and the straight up outrageous lies he has printed there on his blog are very very obvious. Vordrak openly claims to be the source of that dick pic that Ody had posted here on OF, insisting it was Null's. Vordrak mentioned having that dick pic in the comments of his blog but couldn't bring himself to post that image on his own website, so he passed it along to Ody to post here instead. (None of them can prove that it's actually Null on that picture, but such is social engineering when you're desperate to smear your enemy. It's all about suggestion and innuendo.)
To give you but one example of some straight up lying bullshit Vordrak posted: there was a MATI episode, I can't recall which one, where Null read a story about a lolcow who had asked his therapist and his mother to have sex with him because that lolcow was upset about being an incel. Null read that story on an early MATI as a funny edgy story.
Vordrak took that story, that Null had read about the lolcow, and outrageously attributed the lolcow's statements about his mom and his therapist to Null himself! Insisting that Null had said those things! So there is, to this day, a blog entry on Vordrak's blog, where he claims that it was Null who had asked his therapist and his mother to have sex with him.
As if Null's life isn't crazy and outrageous enough in and of itself, Vordrak was so desperate for something even more outrageous and disgusting to pin onto Null, that he printed such straight up lies about Null.
That's who Elaine has met and hung out with BTW.
Yes, I am aware of that whole drama as well. I am aware of the fact #DropKiwiFarms had targeted the wife of Fiberhub's CEO Rob Tree to get her fired, and that she is the person to whom Null was referring in his statement without naming her, when he mentioned Liz Fong-Jones harassing the families of the owners of his associated ISPs. Null was referring to Rob Tree's wife being targeted by #DropKiwiFarms, which they had openly admitted doing.
Here's Sinseer's tweet at the time where he was openly gloating over the fact that #DropKiwiFarms had succeeded in targeting Rob Tree's wife to get her fired, and they were e-mailing one another about this "achievement" to celebrate:
Sinseer then links to, whom else, Vordrak's blog for the scoop:
Realtors Century 21 have removed their page for Natalie Tyree, who they fired for being CFO of #FiberHub and platforming the despicable #Kiwifarms website. She is now serving DMCAs to limit publicity -
@keffals @idlediletante #DropKiwifarms @antiKFaction
Hey @DropKiwifarms @acekatt and @OpSyndicate42. Please check out the post above in this thread about Natalie Tyree trying to take down her image in relation to her firing by Century 21 (who have now removed her page from their website).
Archived: https://archive.is/dzcp6
Yeah, my response was mostly to Ken and any other onions who believe it's unlikely #dropkiwifarms have been able to exert this kind of influence.
I told null I wanted to fuck him in DMs and he said lol no and sent me a Nick Fuentes clip but I can't remember which one.
Is Tesco here in the room with us right now?
Reason: to avoid doubleposting
He posted a couple updates on Telegram and the linked image is the essay you posted here.
Null when gadsten flag: wall of text
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Chrysler Building
Hellovan Onion
It is impossible to say if the story about LFJ is true but it is completely believable, even with Null's personal retardation aside.
Null goes through up and down periods, as anyone would when in a situation like this. His personal foibles just make it easy to laugh at. You have to be mentally unstable to want to run and keep up with a website like KF which is why he goes through low periods of not wanting anything to do with KF but then has high periods where he gets angry at internet crybullies trying to destroy KF and posts stuff like this. His relationship with the forum is bipolar but otoh I understand why he posts things like this, if LFJ is a rapist (and so many trannies are) then yeah it makes complete sense why even someone like Null is willing to spit directly into his eye. Null is retarded and incompetent but he's not a complete monster either.
The Trans Lifeline grift getting taken down was a very bitter pill for People of Gender to swallow. They lost thousands of dollars as well as the chance to grow their scam operation over time so they could steal millions. Tranny charities are all scams and Trans Lifeline getting taken down made a lot of tranny grifters extremely angry. (Since so many trannies commit suicide no matter what, it's really just easier to take the money and not do anything with it. There's no point in trying to save them because trannies don't want to be saved. They want to self injure and then die, probably imagining lots of beautiful twitter posts with a #RestInPower hashtag while they're bleeding out. If trannies will commit suicide for the sake of attention then setting up a lifeline is pointless and the wrong way to approach such pathological narcissism; however it will give you access to lots of free money. That's the most important detail about Trans Lifeline: it had the potential to grow into a megacharity that took in millions of dollars and Kiwifarms smothered it before it reached its full potential.)
And think once more about how egotistical the average tranny like LFJ is. Centering your entire life around twitter, constantly word searching your own name so you can see what mean things people are saying about you, obsessively refreshing your feeds so you can monitor what other people are saying online, etc. Seeing one of your scams get taken down by a BPD case like Null? That's enough to make any tranny seethe, cope, dilate. You lose access to the money that you stole, or that your friends stole, fair and square. It really was one in the eye for the tranny grifters. The fact that Josh's sheer cussedness keeps his website online despite all of your best efforts would whip a tranny into even bigger frothing rage.
We just have to look at Null to see why his enemies do what they do. They are both narcissists who need other people to accomplish their technical warfare. Josh and the DDoSing tranny are not as good at tech as they think they are. They are perfect mirror images of each other, both self centered incompetents that live off simping paypigs and e-beg for cis male techbros to carry out their campaigns while they pretend that they were in charge and that they weren't refreshing twitter and playing vidya:
The tranny that arranged for the DDoSing of KF might not be LFJ, but it probably is most likely someone who fits the tranny profile: a man who cut off his dick or wants to cut off his dick, admitted to rape on his twitter account which KF scooped up before he deleted it, someone who was affected directly or indirectly by the execution of Trans Lifeline and is furious about losing out on all that money he or his friends might have had access to, etc. The scriptkiddy most certainly did fuck KF up and Josh is an incompetent maroon, but trannies have been trying to get KF taken off the internet for years and they have a lot of friends who are also sexual predators that are a part of Silicon Valley. These are people who desperately want KF off the internet.
In a lot of ways KF is too big for its own good, its too notorious. If I were in Null's position I would have split the site up and handed off the chunks to other people years ago with directives to keep documenting. Josh has been obsessed with raising KF's profile and getting better SEO rankings for as long as I've been aware of him. This is the consequences of that behavior coming home to roost. Part of what protects OnionFarms is that this site and userbase is small and obscure and is primarily centered around chattering about Null and his retardation as well as his orbiters. If OF ever does branch out into other lolcows and threads start getting traction here then Kengle will likely face many of the same problems. Trannies are very well connected (sexual predators always band together for protection) and they get very, very angry when their activities are documented and easily accessible.
Sorry for the diary entry, ended up with more to say than I thought I would. Null is a dumbass but when it comes to stuff like this I do feel a little sorry for him. These consequences are a direct result of his behavior but otoh it isn't really Null's fault that a bunch of dickless men are this desperate to cover up their rape attempts.
Null goes through up and down periods, as anyone would when in a situation like this. His personal foibles just make it easy to laugh at. You have to be mentally unstable to want to run and keep up with a website like KF which is why he goes through low periods of not wanting anything to do with KF but then has high periods where he gets angry at internet crybullies trying to destroy KF and posts stuff like this. His relationship with the forum is bipolar but otoh I understand why he posts things like this, if LFJ is a rapist (and so many trannies are) then yeah it makes complete sense why even someone like Null is willing to spit directly into his eye. Null is retarded and incompetent but he's not a complete monster either.
The Trans Lifeline grift getting taken down was a very bitter pill for People of Gender to swallow. They lost thousands of dollars as well as the chance to grow their scam operation over time so they could steal millions. Tranny charities are all scams and Trans Lifeline getting taken down made a lot of tranny grifters extremely angry. (Since so many trannies commit suicide no matter what, it's really just easier to take the money and not do anything with it. There's no point in trying to save them because trannies don't want to be saved. They want to self injure and then die, probably imagining lots of beautiful twitter posts with a #RestInPower hashtag while they're bleeding out. If trannies will commit suicide for the sake of attention then setting up a lifeline is pointless and the wrong way to approach such pathological narcissism; however it will give you access to lots of free money. That's the most important detail about Trans Lifeline: it had the potential to grow into a megacharity that took in millions of dollars and Kiwifarms smothered it before it reached its full potential.)
And think once more about how egotistical the average tranny like LFJ is. Centering your entire life around twitter, constantly word searching your own name so you can see what mean things people are saying about you, obsessively refreshing your feeds so you can monitor what other people are saying online, etc. Seeing one of your scams get taken down by a BPD case like Null? That's enough to make any tranny seethe, cope, dilate. You lose access to the money that you stole, or that your friends stole, fair and square. It really was one in the eye for the tranny grifters. The fact that Josh's sheer cussedness keeps his website online despite all of your best efforts would whip a tranny into even bigger frothing rage.
We just have to look at Null to see why his enemies do what they do. They are both narcissists who need other people to accomplish their technical warfare. Josh and the DDoSing tranny are not as good at tech as they think they are. They are perfect mirror images of each other, both self centered incompetents that live off simping paypigs and e-beg for cis male techbros to carry out their campaigns while they pretend that they were in charge and that they weren't refreshing twitter and playing vidya:
Easy as shit to get the names of people. Vordrak has been employing this strategy for years and has continued to post this information throughout #dropkiwifarms. If you're familiar with how Vordrak works, he'll outline illegal strategies and then finish with a weak disclaimer.
Rob Tyree of Fiberhub/VegasNAP is one of the people whose family was affected by it. He posted about it on Twitter at the time. Various people involved with #dropkiwifarms were publishing information about KF service providers as fast as they found it.
It's fine to say that tech companies just need to get a spine, but if they're large they have to answer to shareholders (we think this might be the reason Matthew Prince from Cloudflare did a rapid about face - the same couple of institutional investors are the major shareholders in most large tech companies, which gives them enormous influence). If they're small and privately owned, then they're vulnerable both to having their own service providers dump them and to having customers abandon them.
The tranny that arranged for the DDoSing of KF might not be LFJ, but it probably is most likely someone who fits the tranny profile: a man who cut off his dick or wants to cut off his dick, admitted to rape on his twitter account which KF scooped up before he deleted it, someone who was affected directly or indirectly by the execution of Trans Lifeline and is furious about losing out on all that money he or his friends might have had access to, etc. The scriptkiddy most certainly did fuck KF up and Josh is an incompetent maroon, but trannies have been trying to get KF taken off the internet for years and they have a lot of friends who are also sexual predators that are a part of Silicon Valley. These are people who desperately want KF off the internet.
In a lot of ways KF is too big for its own good, its too notorious. If I were in Null's position I would have split the site up and handed off the chunks to other people years ago with directives to keep documenting. Josh has been obsessed with raising KF's profile and getting better SEO rankings for as long as I've been aware of him. This is the consequences of that behavior coming home to roost. Part of what protects OnionFarms is that this site and userbase is small and obscure and is primarily centered around chattering about Null and his retardation as well as his orbiters. If OF ever does branch out into other lolcows and threads start getting traction here then Kengle will likely face many of the same problems. Trannies are very well connected (sexual predators always band together for protection) and they get very, very angry when their activities are documented and easily accessible.
Sorry for the diary entry, ended up with more to say than I thought I would. Null is a dumbass but when it comes to stuff like this I do feel a little sorry for him. These consequences are a direct result of his behavior but otoh it isn't really Null's fault that a bunch of dickless men are this desperate to cover up their rape attempts.
Chrysler Building
Hellovan Onion
The saddest part about this IMO is that Null's call for alt tech will go unheard. Most alt tech is run by narcissists like him. Alt tech is not interested in making a parallel internet structure, they just want their own websites so that they can post CP and conspiracies about Jewish space lasers. They won't help him because Null doesn't like CP anymore and he doesn't care about Jews as much as other alt right people do.
This is what I suggested that Null do a while back. Rather than have a single site have a "Kiwiverse" of interconnected sites. Me and VOID thought this was a good idea but when VOID did reach out to Null, he basically told him to get lost.
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KF is not a large site. The main things which have made it a target are its SEO and its extensive archiving. DFE is not a useful tactic against KF.
Splintering the site wouldn't make it less of a target. None of KF's enemies care about the parts of the site which don't focus on lolcows and breaking up the lolcow forums would just create multiple targets instead of one. Finding people as willing as Null has been to persevere in the face of attacks would not be easy, either. How would one ensure that the keepers of those splinters couldn't be bullied into shutting them down?
"Without Kiwifarms no one will know LFJ is a rapist!"
onionland will always be there for biz bong bones victims or something"Without Kiwifarms no one will know LFJ is a rapist!"
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Nah, even if KF never came back up that information would surface elsewhere from time to time. It would just be easier to get it removed from other places for a while until it reappeared again."Without Kiwifarms no one will know LFJ is a rapist!"
Chrysler Building
Hellovan Onion
Null has a lot of options -- or he did. Too bad he burns bridges like this. I can imagine a lot of possibilities for Kiwifarms. The problem is Josh is dumb, incompetent, and too self centered to work with others.
We're here, for starters. There are more people willing to take this stuff on than I would have thought.
I would argue that KF is a big site in terms of the sheer amount of information they have. There's a lot of threads about many different internet famous people. The sheer volume of it is frankly overwhelming. The discussion is good too, or at least it used to be, because users made interesting connections and taught a lot of people how to search for information. The population is probably the smallest it has ever been but there is still a lot of heft to it.
I think that breaking the site up would involve mirroring the content and keep several sites going at the same time. KF can still be the main discussion page but there should be other places that their information is collected and maintained in case KF ever goes down.
I think this is optimistic, I am glad that the sektur has a lot of autists that like saving things but it's not a good idea to trust that their hard drives will last forever.
Information degradation is inevitable of course but I'd feel better if Josh actually gave a shit about preserving the forums and not just assuming its a conduit for him to scam money off paypigs.
Kramer is A Man Da
Remarkable Onion
we're almost 9 months from the start of dropkiwifarms and the site has been down almost literally half the time. even a month ago there was about a 1/3 shot you could actually get through
i will say its an accomplishment to get a unique million visitors a month and to handle that while only spending 2K tops is an achievement but you have to wonder how many people haven't fucked off to greener pastures at this point.
i will say its an accomplishment to get a unique million visitors a month and to handle that while only spending 2K tops is an achievement but you have to wonder how many people haven't fucked off to greener pastures at this point.
When the farms is down for any length of time, a lot of people stop checking daily to see whether it's back up. Eventually the fact it's back up gets posted on places other than Telegram.
I'm not sure that much exists in the way of greener pastures. That may change if Josh throws in the towel and releases the torrents.
onionfarts
Baby Onion
Josh has written a 2000 word essay full of copium about how supervillain Liz "Elliot" Fong-Jones (aka Emmanuel Goldstein) has supposedly taken down the Kiwi Farms, through the use of telephone calls and emails. About how it sure had nothing to do with any 14 year old Turkish hacker that shouldn't be named, or any other anonymous script kiddies for that matter.
