KF Speculation 🤔 The end of kiwifarms

[sick twist]

I didn't say anything about that, tbh. You're not wrong. But corporations are caving under a radical political movement and its demonstrably bad for business. Woke, Inc is effectively poison for capitalism and liberty. Josh is an EASY target, for exactly the reasons you said. That's why he's at the front. The precedent isn't good.

Look at how wildly journalism and corporate media skew issues about which you are an IRL expert. Their pieces on my area of expertise are laughable propaganda. Without exception.

If you're not worried the slope is slippery, so be it. But I gather (maybe brazenly, idc) that you've never been a breastfeeding new mom deprived of places to talk about the real concerns of post partum depression and motherhood by a bunch of rabid troons who demand inclusion and centering in all female spaces.

Nah the slope is slippery as fuck. I am not a tranny fan.

What I am is realistic about the game and the angle Josh played at was a bad one. Getting pushed off mainstream allowed troons to really paint themselves in a good light to people who don't know about the more fucked up ones, or how once the UK included MtFs in women's crime stats how women committing sex crimes spiked for the first time since they started keeping them.

If it was about keeping his platform and shit his method of interacting off of it was stupid and there's really no way around that. This is the game we've got to play and crashing through the wall like the kool-aid man was never the way to play it.

 

[Deleted member 1141]

Trannies are just perverts we kinda already knew that from the get-go

Preach at corporate. This is the fucking choir.

It means getting behind the easy targets, imo. No matter how much you dislike them personally.

 

[Jetstream Sharpe]

Null is just a faggot. He will never score

He will score

Just not with wo(men) his age

 

[Boobie Bomb]

Preach at corporate. This is the fucking choir.

It means getting behind the easy targets, imo. No matter how much you dislike them personally.

Most Trannies would take down KiwiFarms because half the threads are public so it's too late to get the police or FBI to clap cheeks. Joshy could have done the right thing by forwarding the stuff to the FBI before making the Keffals thread public but sadly he is retarded like his Circumcise penis. That is why his site is gone and his fanboys still believe it will come back which it won't cause Null is a suicidal idiot who would rather kill himself before he gets arrested for being a dumbass in life!

 

[Nektar Geist]

It means getting behind the easy targets, imo. No matter how much you dislike them personally

Wrong. Getting behind "easy targets"like joshy gets you labeled a nonce, a creep, a back door manboy. The reason joshy got the boot has nothing to do with free speech. joshy cannot use that argument because he is against free speech (unless it's shota). He got the boot for being bent. Corps will say they "listened to the troons", but that's just good PA.

joshy is the same as the loony troons, sick fuck, NPD.

The troons will be dead in a generation, suicide or cancer, some people will have made a bundle, they will bail out before the court cases start coming in. joshy is still a dumb cunt who was told this would happen and carried on regardless.

 

[sick twist]

Clara spent an entire stream debunking these allegations one by one and there's never been a single grooming victim who's come forward. The "groomer discord server" was an 18+ chatroom and people had to present photo ID to participate. She said she barely interacted there and if stupid risque anime shit being posted in some internet hangout you're tangentially connected to is a crime, every tumblr girl under 30 is going to jail. There was one twitter account claiming to be a child groomed by her, but it turned out to be an extremely adult person who has a history of lying for attention and fun. Likewise the person who had a collar made as a joke was like 27. She also said that the one thing she actually regrets in this was posting a single meme image with an off-color joke to a twitter follower she didn't know and didn't know was under 18.

She goes into this all right here, one would think that if you're obsessing over a person as a literal demonic entity you'd at least put in the time to study them so you can, I dunno, combat them more effectively? https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1591028776?filter=archives&sort=time

She hasn't spent any time "trying to scrub" any of this. She literally did an entire stream about it lmao.

She didn't sell HRT drugs, she directed people to a directory of doctors and how to buy them from other countries. Nobody undergoes gender affirming surgery under age 18. The drugs simply inhibit development of secondary sexual characteristics, and if it's illegal where you are or if your parents are psycho evangelicals then without resources like this you are fucked. You will develop physical characteristics you don't want and will later have to be surgically corrected, if they can be at all.

All twitch streamers deserve to be put in re-education camps but I've gone through her old videos and they really are just boring as fuck. She talks about politics and legislation as it pertains to trans people mostly (like horrific shit like how some states are making it mandatory for some random adult to inspect your kid's genitals if they want to play a sport) interspersed with some humor and small talk about culture. If some other more popular streamer mentions her, she expresses gratitude and that's about it. She did a bunch of recent ones with an Irish transwoman about KF and they are all normal and boring. Her niche seems to be that she's a strong, friendly figure there to keep her mostly trans audience company and help them feel like they aren't struggling alone.

Do you think people never lie about being a bad person or something?

Tranny grooming vics have no clue harm was done to them because they start out by convincing them anyone telling them that shit is a bad idea is the devil so of course you don't have any coming forward. Also don't be retarded please. Puberty is a lot more than balls dropping and titties growing. It's shit like how your bones work and your brain gets slathered in various growth hormones. The best example of long term puberty blocker impact on am adult is probably Michael Jackson for fuck sake.

Also be honest Keffals is so fucking high all the time his memory and thus word is worth about as much as I'd grant the end of the world guy at the subway.

 

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I don't buy that the reasons given for Josh getting booted from all these services for a few reasons:

1. None of the service providers who kicked Null have cited the reasons that you guys have given. In the case of CloudFlare, Prince said that the reason was because of a fedpost on KiwiFarms. The Russian DDoS protection service said they didn't want to be harassed by troons. Even when news outlets talk shit about Josh, the worst they mention is the Christchurch thing and the suicides. You'd think that if they knew about the nekoshota stuff or the Blockland lore they'd go all Ralphamale and headline that he's a kid diddler. But they don't, likely because they don't know.

2. These services have hosted worse, from child porn rings all the way up to ISIS. Am I meant to believe that companies are fine with hosting those types but Josh sperg posting as a teenager is going too far?

3. Even as far as the establishment is concerned, Lucas Roberts isn't squeaky clean. Keffals did get banned from Twitter for his ratio'ing bullshit. Also, contrary to what Lucas says, he wasn't swatted. The RCMP were investigating suspicions that Keffals was a nonce and seized his hard drives. This was when Keffals grifted for his "legal fund" which he used to flee the country. While the media does frame it as the saintly Keffals vs the evil Null, as far as governments and corporations are concerned, they don't seem to sincerely think that. They know Keffals is a piece of shit, they don't care.

Even if Josh were unimpeachable in his behavior, hosting all that incriminating info on the troon mafia would've been enough to put crosshairs on him. Yes, the media and these companies are demonizing him, but the fact that they don't go into the specifics of what you guys talk about tells me that they aren't aware of the dirt they could use on him. They're just doing a lazy smear campaign as a PR move so thry don't look like the bad guys.

 

[sick twist]

How mad does it make you that doctors and mental health experts all disagree with you and with the exception of ignorant and insane holdouts, so does society?

You know at one point that same industry would have subjected you to a lobotomy and called anyone defending you against it ignorant and insane right?

Doctors are right until they arent.

 

[Nektar Geist]

Clara spent an entire stream debunking these allegations...

X. Proven liar, never denied just deflected.

Ash, would you accept that you are a sick individual that wants children to die of cancer because they have been lied to about biology?

If not, please explain why.

 

[sick twist]

So what exactly is to be done with kids who are experiencing gender dysphoria? What is your solution? Because I see what happens when parents tell them it's all in their head or outright abuse them, the dysphoria stays and the kid's life just gets worse and worse.

Same way we treat the kids who get eating disorders because it's the same type of mental problem and almost always a symptom not the actual source of their issues.

Gender affirming care is only saving about 50% lol its not batting great.

 

[sick twist]

No dude, since you know more than fucking medical doctors and psychiatrists who spent YEARS getting educated about this and researching it, what specifically do we DO with trans kids? We keep telling them they're insane? If we're not using HRT then how is it medicated? Do you think out anything you purport to believe?

1. Issues aren't able to be medicated away. Intensive therapy to figure out the source of the issue is how we help the eating disorder kids, same thing here. Figuring out why they feel this way is a better solution than telling someone that they can pull off an alchemy level matter transfer.

2. Medicate their real issue if it is one, like treating bad cases of depression causing depersonalization as an example.

Its sweet you think the medical community is about helping people and not what gets the most money. A tranny is a patient that doesn't go away until it ropes itself.

 

[Nektar Geist]

1. None of the service providers who kicked Null have cited the reasons that you guys have given. In the case of CloudFlare, Prince said that the reason was because of a fedpost on KiwiFarms. The Russian DDoS protection service said they didn't want to be harassed by troons. Even when news outlets talk shit about Josh, the worst they mention is the Christchurch thing and the suicides. You'd think that if they knew about the nekoshota stuff or the Blockland lore they'd go all Ralphamale and headline that he's a kid diddler. But they don't, likely because they don't know.

The reasons they give and the actual reason can be different. It's PR.

2. These services have hosted worse, from child porn rings all the way up to ISIS. Am I meant to believe that companies are fine with hosting those types but Josh sperg posting as a teenager is going too far?

You're making a false comparision, just because other people get away with it... after all joshy has gotten away with a lot.

3. Even as far as the establishment is concerned, Lucas Roberts isn't squeaky clean. Keffals did get banned from Twitter for his ratio'ing bullshit. Also, contrary to what Lucas says, he wasn't swatted. The RCMP were investigating suspicions that Keffals was a nonce and seized his hard drives. This was when Keffals grifted for his "legal fund" which he used to flee the country. While the media does frame it as the saintly Keffals vs the evil Null, as far as governments and corporations are concerned, they don't seem to sincerely think that. They know Keffals is a piece of shit, they don't care.

BUt, as I've said before, Fuff has WaPo,and they are very interested in the big pharma aspect of it. Fuff is useful idiot. As soon as he gets too much attention...

Even if Josh were unimpeachable in his behavior, hosting all that incriminating info on the troon mafia would've been enough to put crosshairs on him. Yes, the media and these companies are demonizing him, but the fact that they don't go into the specifics of what you guys talk about tells me that they aren't aware of the dirt they could use on him. They're just doing a lazy smear campaign as a PR move so thry don't look like the bad guys.

But his thread alone is enough for people to go "Fuck that, I'm not getting involved". Sorry, but you have a very naive world view. Corps only care about share price. The troonatics are soon going to be too much of a hassle for the corps. And you know how the corps deal with people fucking with bottomline.

So what exactly is to be done with kids who are experiencing gender dysphoria? What is your solution? Because I see what the solution is when parents tell them it's all in their head or outright abuse them, the dysphoria stays and the kid's life just gets worse and worse.

You are a retard. DO you know what koro is? Look it up. You think that the answer to children being DELUSIONAL is to mutilate their bodies? Give them hormones that will increase the chances of cancer at least 5 fold.

You don't give a shit about anyone but your worthless self, Ash, you are happy for mentally ill people to be exploited for profit, so don't moralize to me you barren cunt.

 

[xxx_lax]

I remember years ago when Champthom (I think he was the previous owner of the site) warned Josh that branching out like this would end badly. I wonder if he’s sitting back thinking I told you so.

 

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The reasons they give and the actual reason can be different. It's PR.

You're making a false comparision, just because other people get away with it... after all joshy has gotten away with a lot.

BUt, as I've said before, Fuff has WaPo,and they are very interested in the big pharma aspect of it. Fuff is useful idiot. As soon as he gets too much attention...

But his thread alone is enough for people to go "Fuck that, I'm not getting involved". Sorry, but you have a very naive world view. Corps only care about share price. The troonatics are soon going to be too much of a hassle for the corps. And you know how the corps deal with people fucking with bottomline.

If it's a PR move, why would they use the more mild option? Which headline sounds better, "Guy Who Hosted Christchurch Footage Stripped of Web Services" or "Kid Diddler & CP Consumer Who Threatens to Rape Children Stripped of Web Services"? Again, assuming they knew deeper lore about Null past the boilerplate stuff. They can't exactly target Josh for his sorded history if they don't even know it.

Also, I don't think that pointing out who else uses CloudFlare services is some whataboutism argument. It's a straightforward question. If Prince is such a moral person who doesn't want that dastardly Joshua Conner Moon using his services, why does he let unambiguous terrorists and pedophiles use them? You can't say he doesn't know, because this has been brought to his attention before and his response is always " free speech". And you can't say he was oblivious to KiwiFarms, because he defended them during the Christchurch thing. Something is different this time.

I'm not sure about the whole Keffals-being-a-useful-idiot thing. Doesn't that support my argument that there's an agenda? Lucas wants to scrub the internet of his incriminating info, and the big corpos want free range to censor people. Win, win. It's got nothing to do with Josh being a dick. It's certainly not because the corporations view Keffals as being morally superior to Josh. They'll say that in their press releases, but they don't believe it.

 

[Syntaxius]

If they called him a pedo, in any shape or form, it would open them up for an insane defamation suit....

The media is ballsy and biased, not retarded.

 

[naught]

I remember years ago when Champthom (I think he was the previous owner of the site) warned Josh that branching out like this would end badly. I wonder if he’s sitting back thinking I told you so.

Champthon.png.

 

[sick twist]

I'm not sure about the whole Keffals-being-a-useful-idiot thing. Doesn't that support my argument that there's an agenda? Lucas wants to scrub the internet of his incriminating info, and the big corpos want free range to censor people. Win, win. It's got nothing to do with Josh being a dick. It's certainly not because the corporations view Keffals as being morally superior to Josh. They'll say that in their press releases, but they don't believe it.

Theres old bad blood between Josh and people around the internet, I don't think people think Keffals has a corpo backer.

 

[Nektar Geist]

Again, assuming they knew deeper lore about Null past the boilerplate stuff. They can't exactly target Josh for his sorded history if they don't even know it

In this case, they would go for "Gosh, we only just found out" BS. It's more about shareholders (quite rightly) not wanting any association with crypto scammer.

why does he let unambiguous terrorists and pedophiles use them?

They have better PR and more money than joshy. FR

Doesn't that support my argument that there's an agenda?

It's not about whether there is "an agenda", it's just fun and games as usual. It's about joshy being told that if he carried on this way he'd get fucked over. It's not about joshy being a bastion of free speech, because he demonstratively isn't for free speech. You can argue that it's "unfair", but that's just whataboutism. joshy chose to stick his dick in the mangle, trying to rationalize that act as some brave and stunning display of "muh freedom of speech" isn't really going to help anyone. Including joshy.

 

[NerdShamer]

2. These services have hosted worse, from child porn rings all the way up to ISIS. Am I meant to believe that companies are fine with hosting those types but Josh sperg posting as a teenager is going too far?

Honestly, I think it's because they really don't want to handle dealing with an hourly DDoS attack over internet drama.

 

[NerdShamer]

Since a few really loud members of the Josh cult have shown up here at the last psycho holdout compulsively ARGHLE BLARGHLEing and generally being freaks about a single transwoman who explained her case extremely well and is obviously harmless and more successful than you, perennial reminder you all got grifted and sold an ideology by an incel moron who literally ran a chan website for child rape fanfiction, and also the moderators of this site post some eyebrow raising lolicon shit that makes anything vaguely connected to keffals look like Richard Scarry drawings.

Dude, I'm just here to experience internet history and to laugh at which way the world is turning.

I could care less of Josh is an idiot or if Keffals is actually right about whatever.