Kiwifarms has no ISP.
Yeah I don't think Epik is coming back from this. Hopefully its new owners will do better.
Josh should abandon ship instead of waiting it out. The likelihood that they won't be welcoming to KF is high and if he has a second option lined up he should go for it...unless he doesn't have a second option and is secretly hoping for Epik to be willing to work with him.
We were never kicked off of any ISP. I voluntarily migrated from GoDaddy to HostGator because Gator is more tolerant of controversial content. We were kicked off from Xenforo and Themehouse.
Kiwifarms has no ISP.
He'll find a way.Does Joshua Moon have any means of income after this? Any that will take take him into retirement?
Does Joshua Moon have any means of income after this? Any that will take take him into retirement?
Trust the plan. Trust Josh.He'll find a way.
Wait, from Xen? You mean from your Xen license?
Does Joshua Moon have any means of income after this? Any that will take take him into retirement?
Wow, 300k, the cost of a mid-level home in the United States, and all he has to do is make that last for the rest of his life, lawsuits and all. It's good that an insular internet subculture of a few hundred deranged morons nurtured all his worst tendencies and opinions from age 21 until right now so he's wholly unprepared for the bottom falling out of his lifestyle. I watched the most recent MATI stream and he got maybe a couple hundred dollars in donations. Surely he's going to be a successful rightwing pundit now and not a fat nerd who sounds like he's drowning in his own phlegm ranting about the trannies to an increasingly eroding audience.Go back about a dozen pages in the Joshua Moon thread and start reading from there. We've already discussed all this. The SPLC and Mother Jones both published an article speculating that Null has $300k+ in bitcoin. Furthermore, KF is not his main source of income. KF is just the crowdsource platform that provides exclusive content for MATI, which is what Null really likes to do. Null said in the past that he wanted to be Metokur, so he's always wanted to be livestreamer/podcaster. KF provides him with the research he needs to do original podcasts. Rememer, KF is all the short bus nerds that do Null's homework for him so he doesn't have to do it himself. like other content creators who do have to research their own topics on their own.
Keeping KF on Tor and rebranding on clearnet might be the best of both worlds.Null said he's just going to wait for Epik to store itself, otherwise he will rebrand and relaunch KF under a new name and company name.
That's an even better idea, I wonder if he's even considered that? He could tighten the rules just enough to appease these woke companies after rebranding, and keep KF as it is.Keeping KF on Tor and rebranding on clearnet might be the best of both worlds.
It true though.a fat nerd who sounds like he's drowning in his own phlegm
i assume everyone in this sector ends up in prison by the time they hit middle age, its like the mafia. eventually the international governments will get fed up and go full kangaroo to fuck everyone. you really think being such a free speech crusader won't come back on him?Does Joshua Moon have any means of income after this? Any that will take take him into retirement?
it won't stop the trannies,"its just a different name its the exact same thing, so destroy them my minions"Keeping KF on Tor and rebranding on clearnet might be the best of both worlds.
Keeping KF on Tor and rebranding on clearnet might be the best of both worlds.
The only way this happens is if Null gets rid of the anti-trans posters. Until that happens, which it won't, he will always have a target on Kiwi Farms.That's an even better idea, I wonder if he's even considered that? He could tighten the rules just enough to appease these woke companies after rebranding, and keep KF as it is.
LMFAOCross-posting it here from the Poast thread, the part from the DMs where Null asks his ex-friend Graf for help with Nginx+Lua:
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Life was better with Cloudflare, LMAO.
Keep discussion of troons on the Tor site. As the current situation demonstrates, it's much harder to take that down.The only way this happens is if Null gets rid of the anti-trans posters. Until that happens, which it won't, he will always have a target on Kiwi Farms.
Calm down buckaroo.Keep discussion of troons on the Tor site.
That's overcorrecting, probably too far. They can't become sacred cows. There's gotta be some better balance than that.Keep discussion of troons on the Tor site. As the current situation demonstrates, it's much harder to take that down.
The only way this happens is if Null gets rid of the anti-trans posters. Until that happens, which it won't, he will always have a target on Kiwi Farms.
Keep discussion of troons on the Tor site. As the current situation demonstrates, it's much harder to take that down.
While all of this is true, if the site did come back up on the clearnet, Null would go right back to telling people who say the things you're saying to leave his site, and how annoying he finds you and people like you ruined his site. This is going to be an endless cycle with Null until Kiwi Farms is finally taken down, and Null will only have himself to blame.Is it even worth it at that point? Plus the problem is outright lies being pushed by even mainstream media.. ("3 deaths" etc) It doesn't matter if it's all based on one media org parroting another, who was repeating yet another, who was repeating some activist on twatter who themselves offered no evidence. Attempts to point out little things like the victims themselves, in their an hero notes, not mentioning kiwi or even "abuse", is already outright ignored and blocked. (hell, you can't even talk about them because doing so hurts the various narratives built around them being used to push narratives.) So why would anyone expect anything different if they kind of gave in? Giving in is not going to stop the terrorist kiwis driving people to death narrative or shut the activists up.
To break this down:
(1) Null and the regulars have proven to not believe or respect the TRA narrative. That is already enough to warrant and demand complete public banishment and silencing under modern progressive ideology. (2) These are people who believe in not just guilt by association but guilt by failure to virtue signal with the correct opinions. It wouldn't matter if Null turned the clear-net site into a troon safe space, complete with heavy handed censorship and silencing. The fact that he or the site was in any way connected to kiwi or opinions they don't like, would make him and the site worse then hitler and the nazi party combined for these people. (at least officially/publicly) In fact even without kiwi, it's not clear if a full turn and apology would be enough to save those involved in so subverting troon messaging, to this point... at least not on the level or scale as the farms has done. (3) Kiwi is a great evil for these people. The hysterics filled narratives are already spun up and fully in place. Mere continued existence is all it will take to support a continued holy war and crusade. Especially because they rarely have ever ran into a case where they get told no. The persistence and dissent of the farms, so openly and publicly, means Null nor the site can ever be left alone at this point. For ego and the show. (remember, mere mild questioning is "literal" life and death.. genocide, in these people's narrative. Kiwi has publicly pushed it to outright dissent.. and not politely either.)
Not to mention that's giving them a DANGEROUS victory. I mean there is no fallback or alt at this point. If they win here, the open net is officially dead. Importantly, not on a legal level. Free speech online literally means nothing even in the US with this.