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Joshua Conner Moon - Kiwi Farms Joshua Moon Megathread

Joshua Moon the owner of Kiwifarms
KampungBoy said:
I mean that's kinda here nor there hen it comes to Josh though since he completely trashes people for like dating someone 5 years younger but this is ok. Plus he's always crying about the whole mint salad thing with dick masterson which is him concerning himself with the actions of a fully legal aged whore because it benefits him in his fight against masterson. Guy is a total joke and a hypocrite. ...hypocrite.
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Do you thin he's just putting himself in the diddler dax situation cause he thinks of himself of being in the position of dick masterson (I meant him wanting that whore)
 
polonium said:
@Moontroon josh said MS windows. He made the comparison of windows running on commodity hardware to highly specialised industrial machinery
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Okay, I reread the drivel and I understand what Joshua is saying there at the end, which is bullshit. I'm still not sure how you translate that into "Windows is an open platform, the opposite of John Deere". I'm fairly certain what Joshua was trying to say is that Microsoft achieved market dominance by shoving their proprietary solution down everybody's throat while drowning out all their competition, thereby making that solution the defacto standard and locking almost everybody in to using their products. They did this successfully with Windows, Office, and Internet Explorer. You remember when you absolutely NEEDED Internet Explorer to visit certain websites, or to use some corporate intranet thing? Later in IE's lifecycle, you didn't use IE because you wanted to, you used it because the website you needed to access REQUIRED it.

Microsoft even went as far as to give NT the most halfassed POSIX implementation they could get away with, just so they could get Windows onto government computers, where of course government employees could use (and be defacto locked into) Microsoft Office, Microsoft Internet Explorer, and also Microsoft Exchange, Microsoft Internet Information Services, and Microsoft Active Directory.

They effectively took over the spreadsheet market from Lotus 1=2-3, the previous defacto standard. They pretty much destroyed Novell. In both of these cases it can be correctly argued that Excel which was a GUI program from day one, and Windows NT Server which did almost everything NerWare could while also having the ability to run programs in usermode, were objectively better products. They were, but you the user were still being locked into them. At one point Microsoft was even trying to EEE Java away from Sun, presumably to make it into yet another reason for you the user to choose (get fucked into) Microsoft products.

When it was clear that Windows was going to be the future, there was a push from outside of Microsoft, (mostly Unix vendors, I think) to define the complete Win32 API as a standards body recognised standard. This would have allowed other companies to make Windows compatible operating systems, or compatibility shims for Unix, or whatever, so that Win32 programs would be able to run outside of Windows. This never happened, and the with the exception of Mono, the closest thing we have today is ReactOS, an open source Windows clone that implements Win32, and WINE, which is more or less a compatibility shim for Linux (and other) systems. Neither of these things are exactly great to use, but its the best you can do if you don't want to use WIndows but are still locked into Win32 software.

So, yes, you can compare Microsoft Windows to John Deere tractors. They're both things you get fucked into if you need something they offer.
polonium said:
I didn't read most of your post because it missed the point entirely so I didn't bother to waste my time on it.
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You can't know if my post missed the point entirely or not unless you read the whole thing. Please don't be a kiwi.
polonium said:
If you don't wanna get locked in to John Deere infrastructure I guess don't buy their tractors, fairy easy problem to solve. If you're jailbreaking your tractor then you aren't fussed about warranty, so I guess we can what-if ourselves into a coma.
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So, the guys who don't need Deere's infrastructure are still happily using their old trusty IH, Massey, and Deere tractors they bought new in the 70s and 80s. A lot of guys are doing total overhauls on these old tractors because they don't want to deal with the reality of new tractor ownership, namely electronically-controlled engines, exhaust aftertreatment systems, and recurring subscription diagnostic software. The old tractors work, but there is a finite supply of them and some of the parts are no longer available.

For those who have a need for a new tractor, the new tractor warranty is kinda worthless. If your tractor is sitting in the middle of a field broke down for weeks because it won't move because some sensor is reporting a negative condition to the computer, you're kinda screwed. Deere tried to paint this as an emissions tamperproofing measure, but really it was just them trying to lock farmers into using their dealerships for all service and repair.

It's no different than how some people refuse to stop using Windows XP Windows 7 Windows 10 because they don't want the new thing which is objectively worse than the old thing.
 
Moontroon said:
We need a Final Solution to the Reddit Question
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"here's 250 words that are vaguely related to what we're talking about and betray a shallow understanding at best of the topic at hand"

Peak josh moment tbqhwy.

Josh said windows on a PC was as closed as JD tractors. It isn't. Don't follow him down this retarded rabbit hole.
 
Null seethes so hard about a thread about legacy features hat he locks it.
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