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Joshua Conner Moon - Kiwi Farms Joshua Moon Megathread

Joshua Moon the owner of Kiwifarms
ipreferpickles said:
Null says patents and copyright are evil.
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Anti-capitalist null.
 
Kang in Yellow said:
Bad news to Lidl and MATI archiver doubters... it looks like Lidl posted during stream and archiver was active in chat. I guess they're just so indistinguishable from Joshy that they seem like they are alts. Unless Joshy set up something beforehand (he's too fat/lazy for that)

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Or could have been an oldfag pal, so he could "own da /pol/tards". He says BP pays for the bulk of the site's operating costs so entirely possible.

I just hope it gets better, or worse, whatever. SA went out with a whimper, I want KF to go out with a bang. Come on fat troons/catladies,I know you can do it!
 
polonium said:
He makes a fair point that vendor lock-in is bad, but then shits the bed entirely by comparing a vendor-specific closed ecosystem that you're forced to use with a proprietary operating system written for a standard computer architecture that has documented APIs and is completely voluntary to use.
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Android? Joshua didn't mention, but I am assuming that's what he meant because I don't think iOS has ever had a ROM scene, and he's too young/stupid to know about the various smart device platforms that came before Android and iOS.

Android is ever increasingly locked down both in both the operating system itself and what you're allowed to do as a software developer. A lot of Android devices have permanently locked bootloaders which means you aren't flashing any operating system that isn't digitally signed on such a device. You can still sideload apps and 3rd party app stores, but Google introduces new restrictions on what you can do with every version, such as how you can't record calls anymore, or how it's such a fucking pain in the ass to do SMS backups, or how increasingly difficult it is to write a functionally useful SMB or NFS file server or client for the platform, or how the concept of a NANDroid backup is almost completely obsolete and forgotten. The trend is to be locked into whatever solution Google offers, and fuck you if you don't want your data on Google's cloud. It didn't use to be this way, just like how you didn't use to need a fucking subscription to diagnose and repair your diesel engine that you bought and paid for.

iOS has always been vendor lock-in from day one. The first version didn't even have the App Store, that came later. Apple dictates what you can and can't do with their mobile devices, and the only way around that is through reverse engineering and software exploits.

There is a ton more vendor lock-in now than there used to be, and it's only ever getting worse from here on out.
polonium said:
Also the John Deere shit had been reverse engineered, it's awkward but not impossible to get around.
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What about equipment still under warranty? What about next.version? Do you remember the PlayStation 3 hacking scene, where you basically had to choose between playing a new game, or retaining some old system software that was CFW capable?

Remember when they removed OtherOS?
 
@Moontroon josh said MS windows. He made the comparison of windows running on commodity hardware to highly specialised industrial machinery

I didn't read most of your post because it missed the point entirely so I didn't bother to waste my time on it.

If you don't wanna get locked in to John Deere infrastructure I guess don't buy their tractors, fairy easy problem to solve. If you're jailbreaking your tractor then you aren't fussed about warranty, so I guess we can what-if ourselves into a coma.
 
Trad Cath from LA said:
I dont condone sleeping around let alone diddling kids, but I have zero sympathy for these whorish girls who lie about ages. I thought we shouldnt assume female ages? Also, the website she met Cody through asks if the user is 17+, so she clearly lied. At this rate men should be asking for drivers license from any women for one nights standas
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I mean that's kinda here nor there hen it comes to Josh though since he completely trashes people for like dating someone 5 years younger but this is ok. Plus he's always crying about the whole mint salad thing with dick masterson which is him concerning himself with the actions of a fully legal aged whore because it benefits him in his fight against masterson. Guy is a total joke and a hypocrite.
 
KampungBoy said:
I mean that's kinda here nor there hen it comes to Josh though since he completely trashes people for like dating someone 5 years younger but this is ok. Plus he's always crying about the whole mint salad thing with dick masterson which is him concerning himself with the actions of a fully legal aged whore because it benefits him in his fight against masterson. Guy is a total joke and a hypocrite. ...hypocrite.
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Do you thin he's just putting himself in the diddler dax situation cause he thinks of himself of being in the position of dick masterson (I meant him wanting that whore)
 
polonium said:
@Moontroon josh said MS windows. He made the comparison of windows running on commodity hardware to highly specialised industrial machinery
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Okay, I reread the drivel and I understand what Joshua is saying there at the end, which is bullshit. I'm still not sure how you translate that into "Windows is an open platform, the opposite of John Deere". I'm fairly certain what Joshua was trying to say is that Microsoft achieved market dominance by shoving their proprietary solution down everybody's throat while drowning out all their competition, thereby making that solution the defacto standard and locking almost everybody in to using their products. They did this successfully with Windows, Office, and Internet Explorer. You remember when you absolutely NEEDED Internet Explorer to visit certain websites, or to use some corporate intranet thing? Later in IE's lifecycle, you didn't use IE because you wanted to, you used it because the website you needed to access REQUIRED it.

Microsoft even went as far as to give NT the most halfassed POSIX implementation they could get away with, just so they could get Windows onto government computers, where of course government employees could use (and be defacto locked into) Microsoft Office, Microsoft Internet Explorer, and also Microsoft Exchange, Microsoft Internet Information Services, and Microsoft Active Directory.

They effectively took over the spreadsheet market from Lotus 1=2-3, the previous defacto standard. They pretty much destroyed Novell. In both of these cases it can be correctly argued that Excel which was a GUI program from day one, and Windows NT Server which did almost everything NerWare could while also having the ability to run programs in usermode, were objectively better products. They were, but you the user were still being locked into them. At one point Microsoft was even trying to EEE Java away from Sun, presumably to make it into yet another reason for you the user to choose (get fucked into) Microsoft products.

When it was clear that Windows was going to be the future, there was a push from outside of Microsoft, (mostly Unix vendors, I think) to define the complete Win32 API as a standards body recognised standard. This would have allowed other companies to make Windows compatible operating systems, or compatibility shims for Unix, or whatever, so that Win32 programs would be able to run outside of Windows. This never happened, and the with the exception of Mono, the closest thing we have today is ReactOS, an open source Windows clone that implements Win32, and WINE, which is more or less a compatibility shim for Linux (and other) systems. Neither of these things are exactly great to use, but its the best you can do if you don't want to use WIndows but are still locked into Win32 software.

So, yes, you can compare Microsoft Windows to John Deere tractors. They're both things you get fucked into if you need something they offer.
polonium said:
I didn't read most of your post because it missed the point entirely so I didn't bother to waste my time on it.
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You can't know if my post missed the point entirely or not unless you read the whole thing. Please don't be a kiwi.
polonium said:
If you don't wanna get locked in to John Deere infrastructure I guess don't buy their tractors, fairy easy problem to solve. If you're jailbreaking your tractor then you aren't fussed about warranty, so I guess we can what-if ourselves into a coma.
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So, the guys who don't need Deere's infrastructure are still happily using their old trusty IH, Massey, and Deere tractors they bought new in the 70s and 80s. A lot of guys are doing total overhauls on these old tractors because they don't want to deal with the reality of new tractor ownership, namely electronically-controlled engines, exhaust aftertreatment systems, and recurring subscription diagnostic software. The old tractors work, but there is a finite supply of them and some of the parts are no longer available.

For those who have a need for a new tractor, the new tractor warranty is kinda worthless. If your tractor is sitting in the middle of a field broke down for weeks because it won't move because some sensor is reporting a negative condition to the computer, you're kinda screwed. Deere tried to paint this as an emissions tamperproofing measure, but really it was just them trying to lock farmers into using their dealerships for all service and repair.

It's no different than how some people refuse to stop using Windows XP Windows 7 Windows 10 because they don't want the new thing which is objectively worse than the old thing.
 
Moontroon said:
We need a Final Solution to the Reddit Question
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"here's 250 words that are vaguely related to what we're talking about and betray a shallow understanding at best of the topic at hand"

Peak josh moment tbqhwy.

Josh said windows on a PC was as closed as JD tractors. It isn't. Don't follow him down this retarded rabbit hole.
 
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