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Joshua Conner Moon - Kiwi Farms Joshua Moon Megathread

Joshua Moon the owner of Kiwifarms
The Gays From LA said:
PS. I'll admit I don't know what the hell "readding" with a DD means, if this is some weird esoteric IB lingo, please enlighten me.
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Since the answer is literally four words: She added him again.
I'll have some fun and critically analyze every word she wrote.
Yeah I'll admit it was a bit crazy readding him (this means she added him back onto her friend's list, re-adding) and even talking to him after the threats he made. (this means she attempted to be friends with him even after the threats) He's extremely bipolar, and he'd act extremely nice and would be actually amicable and fun to talk to, and then he'd explode into mass-murderer rants or yell very loudly through text that nobody loves him. (literally what Josh does today. Josh acts like a child and has no restraint) I considered him a friend, and I guess I just forgave his weird outbursts because of that. (despite his threats, despite everything she called him, she still wanted to forgive him) He'd remove me at least once a week, and then readd me a couple days later. (Josh would remove her, probably after a rant declaring friendship over only to come back begging to be friends again. This is actually very common for mentally ill people) Sometimes I'd just readd him on my own, especially when he'd start telling everybody he knew that he was going to kill himself. (she probably felt guilt that Josh was suffering)
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KampungBoy said:
An "update" as it were on the status of the donos that were set outside of the legal fund. A user asks Null when he plans on filing suit which Null completely ignores and tries to distract from by posting some dono tallies. He said he would put up a progress bar on the front page and this post he made isn't even highlighted. This really looks like it's being swept under the rug. They are doing nothing to make this info easy to access like Null said he would, even if a progress bar is difficult it should be pretty easy to implement a numerical donation tally. This is ridiculous they aren't even trying to be transparent and you know if Null got pressed on this he would just take out the banhammer.
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Well obviously.

Josh did not get $150,000. I'd be surprised if he got $15,000.

Josh's plan is on the order of pretending to have an enormous legal fund then publicly threatening Epik on Twitter and in emails from himself without benefit of counsel, in the hope they will settle.

If Josh had $150,000 I suspect he would not spend it on lawsuits. He would head to the third world (Thailand) for some hot action. And by, 'action' I mean things which would get him life without parole in the United States.
 
Hadrada said:
It's a bit odd from what i remember Josh used to claim that the kiwi farms has around 10k active users. Which would mean that each user has had to send in around 20 dollars each. Usually with these types of fundraisers a lot of the money comes in from 3rd parties promoting it like youtubers or twitter people who want to support a good cause but the only promotion this fundraiser has seen is one thread on a dying forum.

So lets say 50% of his userbase donated which is more reasonable but that would still mean that they donated 40 bucks each.
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Why does it surprise you that he's managed to raise so much money? And is still getting money donated to him up to now?

You really do not understand how KF interacts with other, more mainstream communities online outside of "the Sektur", if you think his donors were just the people on KF.

The 10k figure (which has never been independently verified or adjusted overtime) doesn't mean that there are 10k unique people who log into KF every single day. Those are just 10k of unique users on that particular day. We don't know how many unique users log into KF in a week or in a month.

If you're going off of the 10k number, and dividing the total of the crowdfunder by that, you are using unreliable numbers for your outcome, because: 1) the crowdfunder isn't the total amount he's received, as he's still receiving checks & money orders (he claims he received 15k the other day) and donations in silver (see below), and 2) he obviously has many many donors outside the Farms, whom you're not including in your calculation.

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Now, as to sources outside of KF, which you're overlooking in your calculation: Null routinely gets up to 20k-30k viers/listeners on MATI (just count his views across platforms, including the ones on the Youtube archives), and he has himself admitted that most of his MATI listeners aren't Kiwis. He advertised the crowdfunder repeatedly on MATI, so it's likely most of his donors weren't Kiwis but MATI regulars.

As for his big donors, who gave the 4-5 figure sums, it should be pretty obvious those are the big Youtubers who are Sektur-adjacent. Like I wrote here before, there's a whole Drama Channel ecosystem on Youtube that relies on KF for their videos, who need the forum to exist so they have access to new drama content to react to, make documentaries about, etc. Hence why I speculated that big, multi-millionaire Youtubers like Keemstar and Destiny might have donated the 4 or 5 figures to Null's crowdfunder. I can't prove this, of course, but they are the most likely responsible for such big sums. Those big drama channels need KiwiFarms to make content, so it's in their interest that it continues to exist. They might not link to KF as the actual source of receipts, but it's pretty obvious what the "chain of custody" for some juicy new drama is, when some drama first shows up on KF and then later on all the Drama Channels. Null knows this, that's why he's always complaining on MATI about Youtubers who use his forum as a source "not shouting out the Farms".
 
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The Gays From LA said:
Null routinely gets up to 20k-030k viers/listeners on MATI (just count his views across platforms,
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View count =/= total viewers especially outside of youtube because most alt tech sites use heavy view multipliers.
The Gays From LA said:
As for his big donors, who gave the 4-5 figure sums, it should be pretty obvious those are the big Youtubers who are Sektur-adjacent. Like I wrote here before, there's a whole Drama Channel ecosystem on Youtube that relies on KF for their videos, who need the forum to exist so they have access to new drama content to react to, make documentaries about, etc. Hence why I speculated that big, multi-millionaire Youtubers like Keemstar and Destiny might have donated the 4 or 5 figures to Null's crowdfunder.
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Keemstar and Null have issues going back a while and given their vindictive natures I don't see this happening. Destiny's career would be instantly over if it came out he donated to KF so I don't see that happening either.

And frankly KF is looking like boomer territory to a lot of the drama channels these days. A lot of zoomer cow action takes place on tik tok and there are as many cow discords as there are grains of sand on a beach. KF really isn't as important as it used to be which is why Null nuked those DSP mods with YT channels and directly called them "competition".

The lolcow podcast is dying cause it's boogie and wings and those guys are considered old hat at this point. Even King Cobra who is one of the hottest cows at this point has a pretty lackluster thread on KF. The thing is the older user base of KF including Null do not want to keep up on new cows. Consequently the new cows that younger people are interested in aren't making it to KF and in turn less people are going on KF because they've heard it all before.
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Like look at this BMJ who is boring and does the same thing every stream is quickly gaining on cobes despite cobes' thread being almost a decade old. Kiwis as I've said are very possessive and will not talk about a cow no matter how entertaining unless they feel like they "found them".

There is a whole other world out there concerning lolcows that don't even touch KF and that is quickly becoming the main portion of lolcow content. Kiwis are going to be talking about Ralph and Foodie Beauty for years to come and the world is still spinning without them.

Your effort posts are great but you have to stop believing stuff that Null and kiwis say about themselves without thinking critically first cause a lot of it just doesn't make any sense.
 
KampungBoy said:
Like look at this BMJ who is boring and does the same thing every stream is quickly gaining on cobes despite cobes' thread being almost a decade old. Kiwis as I've said are very possessive and will not talk about a cow no matter how entertaining unless they feel like they "found them".
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This is very true, one of the reasons I stopped lurking the other farms was because the really boring feud between Feeder, Rekaka, Dick Vito and some other dude was permeating through every thread. I found the beef boring, and I'm into beef. They've become such a cloistered, impenetrable crew, it's tough to watch.
 
youthful_ shannel said:
This is very true, one of the reasons I stopped lurking the other farms was because the really boring feud between Feeder, Rekaka, Dick Vito and some other dude was permeating through every thread. I found the beef boring, and I'm into beef. They've become such a cloistered, impenetrable crew, it's tough to watch.
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YES. It's unbearable the last 4 years at least have been a holding pattern where Null beefs with some eceleb and then THE ENTIRE FUCKING SITE is just Nulls dick suckers climbing over each other to talk about how much that eceleb sucks.

Nobody has a single interesting take anymore it's all just "He's just like Chris Chan, he looks like Ralph". Nobody makes any fun memes or photoshops anymore its just wall to wall Null dicksucking and seethe. It's fucking unbearable.
 
The Gays From LA said:
Why does it surprise you that he's managed to raise so much money? And is still getting money donated to him up to now?

You really do not understand how KF interacts with other, more mainstream communities online outside of "the Sektur", if you think his donors were just the people on KF.

The 10k figure (which has never been independently verified or adjusted overtime) doesn't mean that there are 10k unique people who log into KF every single day. Those are just 10k of unique users on that particular day. We don't know how many unique users log into KF in a week or in a month.

If you're going off of the 10k number, and dividing the total of the crowdfunder by that, you are using unreliable numbers for your outcome, because: 1) the crowdfunder isn't the total amount he's received, as he's still receiving checks & money orders (he claims he received 15k the other day) and donations in silver (see below), and 2) he obviously has many many donors outside the Farms, whom you're not including in your calculation.

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Now, as to sources outside of KF, which you're overlooking in your calculation: Null routinely gets up to 20k-030k viers/listeners on MATI (just count his views across platforms, including the ones on the Youtube archives), and he has himself admitted that most of his MATI listeners aren't Kiwis. He advertised the crowdfunder repeatedly on MATI, so it's likely most of his donors weren't Kiwis but MATI regulars.

As for his big donors, who gave the 4-5 figure sums, it should be pretty obvious those are the big Youtubers who are Sektur-adjacent. Like I wrote here before, there's a whole Drama Channel ecosystem on Youtube that relies on KF for their videos, who need the forum to exist so they have access to new drama content to react to, make documentaries about, etc. Hence why I speculated that big, multi-millionaire Youtubers like Keemstar and Destiny might have donated the 4 or 5 figures to Null's crowdfunder. I can't prove this, of course, but they are the most likely responsible for such big sums. Those big drama channels need KiwiFarms to make content, so it's in their interest that it continues to exist. They might not link to KF as the actual source of receipts, but it's pretty obvious what the "chain of custody" for some juicy new drama is, when some drama first shows up on KF and then later on all the Drama Channels. Null knows this, that's why he's always complaining on MATI about Youtubers who use his forum as a source "not shouting out the Farms".
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You're the smartest person here and really the only reason I'm not nuking this forum. What are your bona fides?
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1759602186986594527
"Despite this, he cannot endure a fraction of what he tries to dish out. The only thing that brings him joy is getting another little boy on his Discord server to shoot up... a school, only to get cucked by a couch"
MASSIVE effort post from the broom. Cuz he's totally not obsessing over Kerfuffels. And him doing the same shit (collecting money under false pretenses) is NOT evidence of that. That's right out!
 
Nektar Geist said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1759602186986594527
"Despite this, he cannot endure a fraction of what he tries to dish out. The only thing that brings him joy is getting another little boy on his Discord server to shoot up... a school, only to get cucked by a couch"
MASSIVE effort post from the broom. Cuz he's totally not obsessing over Kerfuffels. And him doing the same shit (collecting money under false pretenses) is NOT evidence of that. That's right out!
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Null you have a panic attack every day, who are you trying to kid? You have existential crisis over fucking cheese and delete whole forums over being disagreed with. Just the fact that Keffals was able to take 100k of drugs without overdosing makes his dickless ass tougher than you.
 
Fedbuster said:
okay jewsh wannabe
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She has ken shook apparently. Which I admit I find hilarious. He even gave me a temp threadban for doing the same things Ashley did. (She posted tubgirl multiple times and a gunshot suicide picture on people's pages.) Not sure how it's gonna stop me from posting on her page still. He never said no granny tranny either. (Not that I'll quit posting gore and scat like before.) Was thinking of making a post about it in the autism subforum but I really don't give a shit enough to go through the effort.
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The Gays From LA said:
Why does it surprise you that he's managed to raise so much money? And is still getting money donated to him up to now?

You really do not understand how KF interacts with other, more mainstream communities online outside of "the Sektur", if you think his donors were just the people on KF.

As for his big donors, who gave the 4-5 figure sums, it should be pretty obvious those are the big Youtubers who are Sektur-adjacent. Like I wrote here before, there's a whole Drama Channel ecosystem on Youtube that relies on KF for their videos, who need the forum to exist so they have access to new drama content to react to, make documentaries about, etc. Hence why I speculated that big, multi-millionaire Youtubers like Keemstar and Destiny might have donated the 4 or 5 figures to Null's crowdfunder. I can't prove this, of course, but they are the most likely responsible for such big sums. Those big drama channels need KiwiFarms to make content, so it's in their interest that it continues to exist. They might not link to KF as the actual source of receipts, but it's pretty obvious what the "chain of custody" for some juicy new drama is, when some drama first shows up on KF and then later on all the Drama Channels. Null knows this, that's why he's always complaining on MATI about Youtubers who use his forum as a source "not shouting out the Farms".
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Well there in lies the problem. I think you are a bit kiwibrained. Kiwifarms hasn't been the focal point for drama for a very long time. The drama that gets the most clicks and money these days happen on tiktok, twitch and twitter and they don't even get posted about on KF. Kiwifarms today is an aggregator for smaller niche dramas and whats worse for these e-celebrities is that it's a memory bank of all of their sins. I think they would rather see it deleted more then anything. Some of the biggest dramacows don't even have a thread on KF like Asmongold.

The examples you gave are strange. Dramaalert hasn't been a thing for a year and while it was active it mostly covered big name youtubers like KSI who has an enormous internet presence. Destiny mostly covers politics and the drama he does cover is very twitch-centric like Hassan and most of that stuff comes from subreddits like livestream fails. None of these people need kiwifarms beyond digging up dirt on their enemies.

Whats worse for the farms is that even if these people were sympathetic and wished to fight for internet freedums or whatever, Josh has chased away any possible alliances both e-celebs and companies. He can't get along with the big fish cause of his ego meanwhile his reputation is so toxic that the commentary community rather feature PDFfiles like Mrgirl and Vito then him. Cause at this point they are less of a danger to their brands and less volatile. Josh might randomly wake up one day and decide that he hates you or your company for no particular reason other then you picked a hobby he doesn't like or cause you made a joke on twitter and then boom: You have a thread up with your adress, pictures of your family, place of employment and a thousand spergs documenting your every move just waiting to get you fired. That is the reality of dealing with Josh and why nobody wants to associate with him.

It's also why I find it unrealsitc that anyone outside the kiwisphere would dump thousands of dollars in to his warchest there isn't anyone beyond Turkeytom that he hasn't burnt the bridge with.
 
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