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Joshua Moon the owner of Kiwifarms
Damn, you were going to donate a lot. I'm glad you didn't. I wouldn't donate a cent to any online community.

During #DropKiwiFarms I myself was one of those gullible people donating 3 and 4 figures to Null right now. The other day during the MATI Livestream, someone immediately donated $10k to Null the very moment he posted the URL to the crowdfunder website on the screen. I was gonna donate 4 figures to Null during #DropKiwiFarms, not 5 figures like that MATI donor, but I can see where they're coming from. All these poor gullible people believe Null when he's telling them that he's fighting for free speech online. Fortunately Null himself proceeded to show his true nature to me, which is that of a gaslighting liar who thinks he can use and exploit people if he can get away with it, and thankfully I no longer believe anything Null says. I sincerely don't think that Null gives a fuck about free speech. I think he just likes the money, and especially the power that money gives him to threaten an ISP that he assumed was on his side. It's very telling that Null is threatening to sue an entity that until recently was on his side.

Did anyone confirm they were still in control of their account when that post was written? It seemed like a shitpost.
If they haven't removed the xeets since the exchange with Null then they were clearly not shitposting.
If it was just a misunderstanding due to a shitpost, why would Null continue to threaten Epik?
Null clearly thinks the xeets were serious, hence the legal threats.

Here's Epik's TOS, I have highlighted the parts that I suspect will be brought up during the lolsuit, if Null is dumb enough to file it:

C. You will NOT use our Site or Services in a manner (as determined by us in our sole and absolute discretion) that:

Violates the laws, regulations, ordinances, or other such requirements of any applicable Federal, State, or local government and/or international laws or customary industry acceptable use standards;

Promotes, encourages, or engages in child pornography or the exploitation of children;

Promotes, encourages, engages, or displays cruelty to humans or animals;

Promotes, encourages, or engages in terrorism, violence or hatred against people, animals, or property;

Transmits any unsolicited commercial or bulk email, or engages in any activity known or considered to be spamming or mail bombing;

Makes any illegal communication to any newsgroup, mailing list, chat facility, or another internet forum;

Makes, attempts, or allows any unauthorized access to our website, servers, account, your own hosting account (if any), or the account of any other customers of Epik;

Allows any remote code execution of malicious software through a hosting account or any APIs provided by us;

Causes denial of service attacks, port scans, or other endangering and invasive procedures against our servers and facilities or the servers and facilities of other network hosts or Internet users;

Infringes any copyright, trademark, patent, trade secret, or other proprietary rights of any third party information;

Contains viruses, Trojan horses, worms, time bombs, corrupted files, or any other similar software or programs designed to, or capable of, disrupting, damaging, or limiting the functionality of any software or hardware;

Contains any kind of proxy server or other traffic relaying programs;

Engages in or instigates actions that cause harm to Epik or other customers;

Reverse engineers any API or attempts to use an API to obtain confidential information or circumvent an API in order to violate Epik restrictions;

Violates the Ryan Haight Online Pharmacy Consumer Protection Act of 2008 or similar legislation, or promote, encourage, or engage in the sale or distribution of prescription medication without a valid prescription;

Violates the privacy or publicity rights of another user or any other person or entity, or breaches any duty of confidentiality that you owe to another user or any other person or entity.

IN NO EVENT SHALL EPIK, ITS OFFICERS, DIRECTORS, EMPLOYEES, AGENTS, AND ALL THIRD PARTY SERVICE PROVIDERS, BE LIABLE TO YOU OR ANY OTHER PERSON OR ENTITY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, PUNITIVE, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES WHATSOEVER, INCLUDING ANY THAT MAY RESULT FROM (...) IX) ANY USER CONTENT OR CONTENT THAT IS DEFAMATORY, HARASSING, ABUSIVE, HARMFUL TO MINORS OR ANY PROTECTED CLASS, PORNOGRAPHIC, “X-RATED”, OBSCENE, OR OTHERWISE OBJECTIONABLE

Here's their Abuse policy:

Abuse Policy
In order to ensure that all abuse requests are investigated, please submit abuse report(s) at:

abuse[at]epik[dt]com

Please understand that we require evidence of the illegal activity prior to deactivation. Unfortunately, we cannot simply take reports at face value as there are often fake or inaccurate reports filed with us. Otherwise, please contact the host of the website who has control over the website content or the registrant of the domain directly.

If the complaint is regarding a UDRP or ICANN complaint, please email abuse@epik.com and we will respond to your email within the time frame specified.


Epik apparently concluded that the screenshots they had received violate at least one (probably more) subsection of section C of their TOS. Even if those screenshots aren't CP and the person in them truly was 19 as Null claims, Epik can still argue that they were erring on the side of caution based on what they determined was in those screenshots, so there was no bad faith involved or intended on their part. Due to the nature of the screenshots they had received, Epik's abuse department must've felt moved to act immediately.
 
During #DropKiwiFarms I myself was one of those gullible people donating 3 and 4 figures to Null right now. The other day during the MATI Livestream, someone immediately donated $10k to Null the very moment he posted the URL to the crowdfunder website on the screen. I was gonna donate 4 figures to Null during #DropKiwiFarms, not 5 figures like that MATI donor, but I can see where they're coming from. All these poor gullible people believe Null when he's telling them that he's fighting for free speech online. Fortunately Null himself proceeded to show his true nature to me, which is that of a gaslighting liar who thinks he can use and exploit people if he can get away with it, and thankfully I no longer believe anything Null says. I sincerely don't think that Null gives a fuck about free speech. I think he just likes the money, and especially the power that money gives him to threaten an ISP that he assumed was on his side. It's very telling that Null is threatening to sue an entity that until recently was on his side.


If they haven't removed the xeets since the exchange with Null then they were clearly not shitposting.
If it was just a misunderstanding due to a shitpost, why would Null continue to threaten Epik?
Null clearly thinks the xeets were serious, hence the legal threats.

Here's Epik's TOS, I have highlighted the parts that I suspect will be brought up during the lolsuit, if Null is dumb enough to file it:





Here's their Abuse policy:



Epik apparently concluded that the screenshots they had received violate at least one (probably more) subsection of section C of their TOS. Even if those screenshots aren't CP and the person in them truly was 19 as Null claims, Epik can still argue that they were erring on the side of caution based on what they determined was in those screenshots, so there was no bad faith involved or intended on their part. Due to the nature of the screenshots they had received, Epik's abuse department must've felt moved to act immediately.
So Null is gonna leave off the internet forever and kengle takes over? I mean KF violated subsection C...
Hell doesn't KF have beastality on there as well?
 
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motherfucker... 💀 :story:
 
During #DropKiwiFarms I myself was one of those gullible people donating 3 and 4 figures to Null right now.
I'm happy for you that you used it on a vacation this time. ⛱️ Most websites and GFMs are some degree of scam IMHO, like many websites will ban you at the drop of a hat, no matter how much money you gave them. peguinz0 had a good series on bad kickstarters.
I sincerely don't think that Null gives a fuck about free speech.
Agreed, the only speech he wants is the entire world licking his obese asshole clean. *Lidl Drip sounds*
If they haven't removed the xeets since the exchange with Null then they were clearly not shitposting.
I'll have to check. It just came off like what someone who got into the account and wanted to cause drama would do.
If it was just a misunderstanding due to a shitpost, why would Null continue to threaten Epik?
Null clearly thinks the xeets were serious, hence the legal threats.
I think his lack of research and foresight is that great that he would bring a legal challenge against a fake or compromised account.
Even if those screenshots aren't CP and the person in them truly was 19 as Null claims, Epik can still argue that they were erring on the side of caution based on what they determined was in those screenshots, so there was no bad faith involved or intended on their part.
Yeah, I'm not trained in law but it really doesn't seem like he would have a case. This is all an elaborate scheme to keep affording takeout pizza in this economy.
 
So now he got more than his $75k, is he going to keep telling everyone he's about to file the lawsuit any minute now, make up progress updates, that sort of thing and hope he can keep up a plausible cloud of bullshit until it's safe to memory hole the whole thing, or does he try to brazenly take the cash and run?
 
Null is angry at any man who doesn't have downs syndrome, like himself. Here is a great example of his seething jealousy of healthy men. No man can be fitter, happier or healthier than Null, Null is perfection.
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Wow check it out guys! Turns out lidltroons type is fat american liberterians just like Null! "Wild american stallion" :story:
 
The Drop Kiwi Farms people are following his fundraising for this litigation against Epik. Maybe they will say mean things on twitter and null will have to sue them too.
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now I'm not siding with kiwifarms. holy shit, that DropKiwifarms account is annoying as hell
 
Josh leaves out outcome 5:
5. Lolcow LLC sues and loses, and I take whatever funds is left and leave the internet forever. NO REFUNDS!
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hmm, sounds familiar?
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If kengle does ever end up having taken over KF...I hope he implements a delete account feature
bad news: xenforo (the forum cms kiwifarms uses) doesn't offer user account deletion. meaning is that only admins, mods, and jannies are able to delete user accounts not user themselves.

xenforo support custom plug-ins so maybe there exists xenforo plug-in that allows users to delete their account? who knows
 
So now he got more than his $75k, is he going to keep telling everyone he's about to file the lawsuit any minute now, make up progress updates, that sort of thing and hope he can keep up a plausible cloud of bullshit until it's safe to memory hole the whole thing, or does he try to brazenly take the cash and run?
I bet he's just going to keep fund raising more while keeping shoddy records of everything and by the time it gets to trial the total amounts will be very murky and some people will have just forgotten. Every week it's going to be "yes, we have raised a lot but lawsuits cost a ton of money and I need more now"
The user is right about null and his current legal crap, don't know about Vic bc I never followed that.

Does this add to @The Gays From LA theory that Lidl is a gay male? Cus I doubt a cishet woman would talk about men that way...
Just comparing different types of women or men you are into or not into like Didl is here is a very male thing. With women it's more about situations and scenarios generally speaking.
 
I bet he's just going to keep fund raising more while keeping shoddy records of everything and by the time it gets to trial the total amounts will be very murky and some people will have just forgotten. Every week it's going to be "yes, we have raised a lot but lawsuits cost a ton of money and I need more now"
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Wow not to pat myself on the back but it didn't even take an hour.
 
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Wow not to pat myself on the back but it didn't even take an hour.
It was a matter of when, not if lol.

I briefly entertained the idea this might be a one-and-done scam: get $75k+ off goons kiwis and use it to start afresh and leave kiwi farms behind, but it seems null is thinking he can keep this grift going and dodge getting a job for a good while yet.
 
It was a matter of when, not if lol.

I briefly entertained the idea this might be a one-and-done scam: get $75k+ off goons kiwis and use it to start afresh and leave kiwi farms behind, but it seems null is thinking he can keep this grift going and dodge getting a job for a good while yet.
yeah there's no way he needs $110k+. The glowniggers are funding this. No one will just piss away $1000 on a fat retard like Null on a whim + a reddit bot response like they claim to in that thread.

On the other hand, looking forward to watching the legal assraping the retard jewsh is about to experience in court.
 
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