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Joshua Moon the owner of Kiwifarms
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Null throws more tantrums and describes himself without realizing it.
 
Anything other than a "fuck you" to these people would just be twisted into something it's not for their narrative anyway. It's how "journalism" and "reporting" these days works on both sides regardless of political stance. Honestly the response from null in this instance is pretty reasonable in spite of most if not all his criticism also applying to himself and his personal army forum.
the media lied about the mafia existing until the Eisenhower administration. the LA times tried calling Bugsy Siegel's death an antisemetic hate crime on par with the one that started the ADL.

The guy that wrote the rise and fall of the 3rd reich said that anyone that dares to say the mafia exists should be thrown in federal prison. They were always like this
That's what he literally said, that he doesn't want to invite himself on other people's shows. I remember during #dropkiwifarms, after he went on Metokur's podcast, Kiwis in the MATI thread told him to do more Livestream interviews to publicize what was happening to the site. Some Kiwis even posted lists of Youtubers who might be interested in talking to Null and told him to contact them... but Null refused to.
This is one of the few things i agree with from you. people don't realize but a surprisingly high amount of the population only knows of Null from MATI and when he did do the podcast circuit back in 2016-2018 he really did get a lot of either new fans/paypigs or better reputation from it.

Null is talking about doing Rogan but just doing smaller podcasts would rise his profile to the point that rogan might have him on. Chrissy Mayr is queen of alt-right youtube right now but she was obsessed with lolcows back in 2019 and wanted him on, but didn't know how to contact him. And a lot of bigger podcasts have a similar thing, they're small and will say yes to anyone that asks and once they blow up their standards rise but everyone on before gets grandfathered in. You think most people who listen to joe rogan know who duncan trussell is?

Null even has a perfect in with his Chris chan friendship and can segway into other lolcows then into free speech. Then be the internet correspondent for a fuckload of podcasts. As offputting as null is he's clearly been extremely experienced at talking into a microphone about what he knows. And the smartest part is that by talking to people on the podcast circuit he's talking to paypigs! instead of only the weirdos who have never spent a dime on media like he does on the 'farms he can get the ones that already normalized paying people to put out content and get even more fans.

Beyond that is that he'll also end up making contacts with people who will probably have connections, he needs some help with coding, well some podcasters lucked into having a guy with a masters in the field running his entire website and chat and credit card processing and forum.
 
the media lied about the mafia existing until the Eisenhower administration. the LA times tried calling Bugsy Siegel's death an antisemetic hate crime on par with the one that started the ADL.

The guy that wrote the rise and fall of the 3rd reich said that anyone that dares to say the mafia exists should be thrown in federal prison. They were always like this

This is one of the few things i agree with from you. people don't realize but a surprisingly high amount of the population only knows of Null from MATI and when he did do the podcast circuit back in 2016-2018 he really did get a lot of either new fans/paypigs or better reputation from it.

Null is talking about doing Rogan but just doing smaller podcasts would rise his profile to the point that rogan might have him on. Chrissy Mayr is queen of alt-right youtube right now but she was obsessed with lolcows back in 2019 and wanted him on, but didn't know how to contact him. And a lot of bigger podcasts have a similar thing, they're small and will say yes to anyone that asks and once they blow up their standards rise but everyone on before gets grandfathered in. You think most people who listen to joe rogan know who duncan trussell is?

Null even has a perfect in with his Chris chan friendship and can segway into other lolcows then into free speech. Then be the internet correspondent for a fuckload of podcasts. As offputting as null is he's clearly been extremely experienced at talking into a microphone about what he knows. And the smartest part is that by talking to people on the podcast circuit he's talking to paypigs! instead of only the weirdos who have never spent a dime on media like he does on the 'farms he can get the ones that already normalized paying people to put out content and get even more fans.

Beyond that is that he'll also end up making contacts with people who will probably have connections, he needs some help with coding, well some podcasters lucked into having a guy with a masters in the field running his entire website and chat and credit card processing and forum.
Media was always biased, but back then some journalists and reporters would still die for their coverage and risk their lives more often than they do now. Instead of cover real things nowadays they gatekeep who is allowed to be one so no one can go against the grain. We still occasionally have coverage of stories they don't want us to know but they usually hire fake fact checkers to gaslight them, take them down, and even still Clinton the ones exposing it. All they do these days is mostly report about nothing burgers and harass autistic people and make them look worse than they already look. They did do it to back but they still had more independent journalists willing to die to expose things like the mafia that the mainstream covered up. Nowadays they are gatekept and arrested for not having proper press license and no one has the guts to do any of it if it risks their life or freedom.
 
Why does he need a PR person? you really think that towelhead cunt could be convinced to give him a good hitpiece? Ben Shapiro's entire thing is good PR and that fuck has the worst reputation of any douche bag in modern media. He's treating these people how they deserve to be treated. let @Sailfish reach out if you genuinely think this is a great PR opportunity

So much this.. Now proven by the actual article which goes back and forth between being literally a fluff/PR/advertisement piece for no-dong-fong and friends, and a tantrum response to EFF arguing that we need to expand the ability to banish off the net. It regurgitates even the stuff known to be false. Like that kiwi doxxed keff etc. They posted Null's reply in full too. lol It's poorly written and worst of all.. It says the stuff that wasn't supposed to be said out loud. Like gushing over dongless's tactic of targeting employees of a company one by one until he gets the right outcome. He comes of as an obsessed stalker.

 
So by the looks of it another nothing-burger feature that is basically Josh calling all the "Autistic Illuminattis" because someone said mean things about him on the internet.

I still remember when Josh would collect any and all media mentions of Kiwifarms and wear them at the bottom of the forum like they were badges or something, why the change of attitude Josh? What changed? Feeling trapped? Feeling the heat of the kitchen? :story:

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It's the article worth reading? Anything particularly relevant? I've plenty to read.
 
Haha. He's so fucked.
Imagine you're just reading this article with no knowledge, and it just gets worse and worse.
Then it details the founder and the first impression you get of him is this.
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I am so right when I say he's basically a fed's wet dream. Holy fuck, they don't even need to take anything he says out of context.
 
still wating on @Sailfish or @Empresa to answer what they would have done if they were in Josh's place. say the washington post comes after this site, how do you respond.
If the Washington Post comes after this site, I will make a public announcement. If they want an interview, I can give them one. I for one will not run away from a newspaper.
 
He needs a PR person. He cannot be trusted to talk to the media:
I actually agree with Null in this instance, there's no point in ever talking to anyone who thinks highly of fucking Taylor Lorenz. I don't care how much you hate Null, Taylor Lorenz is worse than Null because she has power and access that Null doesn't have, and is censoriousAF. That makes her immensely more dangerous than Null.

I am so right when I say he's basically a fed's wet dream. Holy fuck, they don't even need to take anything he says out of context.
You keep saying that "he's a fed's wet dream" but what do you mean by that, specifically? Do you realize that LE can monitor internet traffic IRT? Have you ever read about the Snowden leaks and what was specifically revealed there about how the government spies on internet traffic? You should read up on how they actually do it instead of feeding into these fantasies about how certain websites are "fed honeypots" or whatever.

If the Washington Post comes after this site, I will make a public announcement. If they want an interview, I can give them one. I for one will not run away from a newspaper.

Why would the Washington Post want to write about a forum with perhaps a couple of dozen daily regulars? This site is just not big enough to garner anyone's attention, and it's probably for the best.
 
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Does that need a poll? Everyone knows he and his stans are far right. The rest of the Kiwis who are politically diverse are just there to provide cover for Null and the MATI stans so they can use the other Kiwis for cover to distract from themselves and their far right radicalization. Null claiming to be a "centrist" while spewing the most obviously far right racist and antisemitic xenophobic talking-points on MATI with his stans is the biggest joke ever. Again, hate speech is legal and he has a 1A right to say these all these things before a sympathetic audience of like-minded racists, but don't fucking obfuscate about where you are politically.
 
WAIT WAIT, DOES JOSH REALLY THINK HE HAS ANY CHANCE TO GO INTO ROGAN?! :story:


What told you that?
His inconsistent beliefs that nebulously change based on where the wind blows, and his ability to omit and burn past beliefs?
You know mean to tell me him still defending loli to a degree, having mods as well defend it, even after the supposed realization that apparently they were the same posters is likely just a moral shift to avoid dealing with the moralfags he now surrounds himself daily with?

A shocking revelation: The Kiwifarms told me he's a nice person, that he's not even autistic.

You know a long time ago he actually told hotwheels, the original creator of 8ch, that if a lolcow wasn't producing any milk he would let them go so to speak. Meaning at the time he lied, and gave the impression that if you didn't react he'd just lock the thread or even delete it. He doesn't do this.
He also told Turkey and Destiny that if someone clearly made a thread that's just a personal army, implying as well if a thread was seemingly is too personal, he'd delete the threads. He doesn't do this. (Side note: This is the video where he also says: "YEAH I ALLOW PEOPLE TO POST PEOPLE'S SSN IF THEY WANT.")
It's almost like he's a snake that just manipulates and uses people and beliefs then discards them when they're inconvient.
You'd think that a post "moralfagging" wouldn't try to take on "moralfags" but it's pretty clear that you're retarded as fuck
 
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what do you mean by that, specifically?
When Ted decided to bomb a bunch of random people do you think his ideology was received well in the public?
When Mr. Anime killed his entire family do you think that helped the public perception of anime fans?
When the New Zealand Shooting happened and it was a poster from 8chan do you think that gave any sympathy to that site?

No. In fact despite the Christchurch Shooter literally stating in his manifesto that he's performing accelerationism because he wants gun-control laws to increase and censorship to increase did that stop them from doing what he literally set-out to do? Again no.
So I don't think Null is doing any favors to the internet when he'll be the catalyst for companies censoring sites based on public opinion.

You'd think that a post "moralfagging" wouldn't try to take on "moralfags" but it's pretty clear that you're retarded as fuck
You're inability to read is impressive. Maybe it's not that I'm trying to complain about his ethics but the history of him constantly shifting his beliefs to imply that he doesn't really believe anything.
 
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Why does he need a PR person? you really think that towelhead cunt could be convinced to give him a good hitpiece? Ben Shapiro's entire thing is good PR and that fuck has the worst reputation of any douche bag in modern media. He's treating these people how they deserve to be treated. let @Sailfish reach out if you genuinely think this is a great PR opportunity
I am seriously thinking of this.
 
You're inability to read is impressive. Maybe it's not that I'm trying to complain about his ethics but the history of him constantly shifting his beliefs to imply that he doesn't really believe anything
Which you imply is wrong, thus you're, indeed, "complaining about his ethics" and thus "moralfagging".

Keep proving yourself to be an idiot.
 
Which you imply is wrong, thus you're, indeed, "complaining about his ethics" and thus "moralfagging".

Keep proving yourself to be an idiot.
Sure thing I'll do that, and you keep proving you have no reading comprehension.
And here since you struggle to understand what moralfagging even is.
moralfag (plural moralfags)
  1. (Internet slang, offensive, derogatory) A person who expresses moral disapproval or moral opinions, especially in a generally amoral setting like the /b/ board on the 4chan community.

would be funny if it leads to this place being a pro-trans version of kiwifarms. "we record internet drama, unless the person doesn't want it and is part of a minority, Yaniv has never done anything wrong"
"What makes your site different?"
"We're openly gay."
 
Sure thing I'll do that, and you keep proving you have no reading comprehension.
And here since you struggle to understand what moralfagging even is.



"What makes your site different?"
"We're openly gay."
Holy shit you're really fucking dumb. :story:
Even according to your own definition: "A person who expresses moral disapproval or moral opinions" YOU'RE EXPRESSING MORAL DISAPPROVAL OR MORAL OPINIONS ABOUT JOSH'S INCONSISTENCY YOU ABSOLUTE MORON :story:
"especially in a generally amoral setting like the /b/ board on the 4chan community." or like a forum dedicated to stalking internet eccentrics? We're not the Effective Altruism forums here or whatever the fuck your definition of morality is.
 
Holy shit you're really fucking dumb. :story:
Even according to your own definition: "A person who expresses moral disapproval or moral opinions" YOU'RE EXPRESSING MORAL DISAPPROVAL OR MORAL OPINIONS ABOUT JOSH'S INCONSISTENCY YOU ABSOLUTE MORON :story:
"especially in a generally amoral setting like the /b/ board on the 4chan community." or like a forum dedicated to stalking internet eccentrics? We're not the Effective Altruism forums here or whatever the fuck your definition of morality is.
Oh you understand the word? Why did you put it in quotes then? I was concerned for you so I gave you the definition.
Good job missing the point, man. Here I'm done dragging this out.
  • I respond to "Josh isn't as principled as he wants you to believe"
  • With: What makes you think that?
  • I add examples of him, Josh, being unprincipled.
  • I add the context that his beliefs change with the crowd that acts like they're saving the west by shitposting.
    • "likely just a moral shift to avoid dealing with the moralfags he now surrounds himself daily with?"
Wow. Really hard to understand that point. Incredibly complicated.
Anyways have a great day.
 
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