Joshua Moon the owner of Kiwifarms
I think Mister Metokur said it best when people asked him as to why the Internet began to crack down on political extremism (more specifically the Dissident Right content that was far more prevalent back in the day compared to now; although these days the Far-Left isn't doing so well either).

And the answer that Metokur gave at the time was that the probable real reason as to why Big Tech is like this is that they want to sell you a Toyota.

Many of the big advertisers that are on the major online platforms and services want to sell you a Toyota and they don't want to sell you a Toyota next to people shouting about conspiracy theories such as how the Apollo Moon landings may have been faked or how the Jews may have planned to have 9/11 happen on purpose.

Many advertisers want to sell you a Toyota, a Playstation, a new computer, fashion accessories, and popular snack brands on squeaky clean online platforms. In the eyes of Corporate America, things like racism, antisemetism, doxing, political extremism in general (it's not just the Dissident Right that's being targeted, even the Far-Left is getting targeted too these days), and calls to overthrow liberal democracy in favor of dictatorship are seen as degeneracy in the eyes of America's corporate overlords.

Part of the reason why the Dissident Right and the Progressive Left haven't really gone that far from the Internet is that many of their ideals continue to be very unpopular among voters and Corporate America (from calls to establish theocracy to calls to abolish capitalism are not exactly popular political positions in the Western world). It's also for these reasons as to why Kiwi Farms is in the position that it's in is because in the eyes of the corporate overlords, Kiwi Farms is seen as degeneracy where Corporate America sees platforms like Kiwi Farms as a net negative that may hurt their sales in the long run.

I'm not defending Corporate America here, there is a lot of things wrong with Corporate America that I hate (from how Corporate America still serves the military industrial complex to keep the endless wars going to how Corporate America has jacked up computer parts prices and they use AI as an excuse).

But what I'm saying here is that freedom of association is still very much a thing in the Western world. Why do progressive woke video games often not do so well in sales? Everyone sees them as blatant propaganda so they often do poorly in sales. Why does the Dissident Right keep staying mostly stagnant online? Because many of their ideals are not really popular within the Western world either (with the only true exception where the only thing that the Western world can agree with the Dissident Right on is on the issue of unchecked immigration). The communists and fascists of the Internet have every right to say that the Western world should adopt their autocratic ideals and everyone else has the right to simply walk away from the people that are preaching this extreme rhetoric. Kiwi Farms is fucked because Corporate America simply doesn't want to associate with platforms like Kiwi Farms because in their eyes they see online platforms like Kiwi Farms as degeneracy anyway.

Corporate America just wants to sell you a Toyota here.
I believe you're absolutely correct in that it would be beneficial for "the powers that be" to have a completely sterilized Internet for their purposes.
I don't believe that many people would object to this rather unremarkable and trite observation.

These forces aren't unique in their antagonism toward Kiwifarms, however.

As @Dude-Weed has correctly identified, most of us want a forum which is what Kiwifarms should be in essence, sans the more extreme fringes of its userbase.
I for one would want a Kiwifarms that:

1.) Never doxx (or Ph0nEbO0k) people.
2.) Have a userbase which consists of balanced and fair users (i.e. not spergy and antagonistic cunts for the sake of it) in their discussion about topics in general. Needless antagonism towards "lolcows" should be frowned upon, no matter how much you may dislike them.
3.) Don't have faggots like AnOminous, Just A Butt, Lidl Drip, Thé au lait and many others who use the forum as their personal therapy sessions and toilet.
4.) Don't platform radical feminists, i.e. misandrists.
5.) Don't platform actual misogynists, although I have yet to observe Andrew Tate-types on Kiwifarms.
5.) Don't platform Joshua Conner Moon.

I believe that the main problem for Kiwifarms, besides its fat and feminine administrator, is that its userbase now consists of a slew of demographics that very, very few people like at all.
Kiwifarms is infiltrated with Facebook-boomers, radical feminists, Zionists, and otherwise antagonistic people who are incredibly nasty and rude towards the userbase in general, and towards new users in particular.
We're not talking about users who engage in the art of trolling and light ribbing, which I believe is becoming more of a lost artform. We're talking about users who antagonize and shit on users and "lolcows" for no particular reason whatsoever and in a very nasty and generally unfun way.

These users who "infight" seems to be beloved by the radical feminists in particular. Perhaps their catty and ugly nature sees kinship in such behaviour. No wonder these infighting users have Joshuas faggoty blessing, despite him claiming to loathe users who infight. His hypocricy is as blatant as ever.

Very few people like Kiwifarms for what it currently is, and through the years, the forum has garnered a lot of negative attention for its spergery and evil.
It doesn't exactly help that Joshua constantly tries to use the forum as his personal army.

Kiwifarms just sucks. It's filled with moronic and evil people, and the guy at the helm of the operation is one of the worst spastic cunts out there.
No wonder it hasn't grown.

On the note of Kiwifarms lack of growth:
I don't know much about "TurkeyTom", but I find it so fucking funny that he's become very successful by documenting "lolcows", or as his Kiwifarms detractors claim, for having "stolen Kiwifarms content" (!). The fact that Joshua apparently hate him for not "giving Kiwifarms credit" is just such a delight. What a delusional idiot he is.

It's not Thomas' fault that he's talented in marketing himself, is there?
Whatever you think of him, the size of his audience and YouTube-channel speaks for themselves.
Too bad for Joshua that his pubescent, whiny voice and overall spergy nature results in negative charisma, and thus that his "content" doesn't lend itself to a more mainstream appeal.

The whole thing about Thomas' "stealing Kiwifarms content" reminds me of this gem from Internet Historian:
The Instagrabbing of /r/dankmemes

It's just a beautiful debacle of the most serious autism.
 
Many advertisers want to sell you a Toyota, a Playstation, a new computer, fashion accessories, and popular snack brands on squeaky clean online platforms.
i'd say thats mostly accurate. you can tell shit changed very recently with how the mainstream was allowed to embrace shane gillis. tons of legit brands like playstation or mountain dew or computer and fashion brands are letting very sus e-celebs shill their products in a way they wouldn't even be allowed to be seen using 5 years ago.

like Almost Friday has tons of jokes that are pretty out there, one of their most famous clips accused bush of doing 9/11 and talks about epstein and the hilary hitlist. Which is pretty tame to us but for a major brand to be a-ok with is fucking insane. like one of their sponsored videos is a joke video about a guy doing a mass shooting because he thinks he's in a time loop.

look at the netflix roast of Kevin Hart, 20 years ago don imus and michael richards got cancelled because they said shit about black people's hair, meanwhile Shane openly joked about lynching kevin hart. everyone was going as extreme as possible.

even Tiktok, you can joke about jewish people and still popular brands will work with you whereas 5 years ago you'd have shady companies like sports betting or boner pill sites saying they can't work with you anymore over those types of jokes.

thanks to bigger names like Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, Shane Gillis pretty openly telling brands to go fuck themselves and they won't tone down their content and they'd rather do without than deal with them, it caused brands to stop being as weird about advertising with more offensive people.

now refusing to advertise with someone like Theo Von is seen the same way a brand refusing to advertise on MTV or Comedy Central in the 90s would look like, you'd look like an out of touch freak.

even the left rolls their eyes at people trying to pull woke 1.0 stuff nowadays. Once you factor in the Israel stuff, i'd say we're more allowed to say offensive things than any other group in history.

I think thats the biggest reason i see plenty of zoomers just not into watching tv or films anymore, its so out of touch and the guidelines and acceptability is so off base compared to everyone else. look at how SNL made fun of Kash Patel vs everyone else on the internet.

as far as mainstream entertainment is concerned its still 2017 and thats why barstool and literally any podcast has just run past them. i don't think anyone would prefer a clip from The Tonight Show of a celeb over a clip from some podcast.

If you ever watch Tim Dillion he's had surprisingly normal advertisers for awhile now, obviously kiwifarms will never be mainstream but i wouldn't be surprised if some youtuber or podcaster could get some sponsored content that is way more extreme than people would have assumed people could watch.

The "mainstream" is dying quickly enough that all thats left is the internet and you'll either have to be a-ok advertising with some offputting people or not at all
 
I have a couple observations. Kiwi Farms and other radicalization echo-chamber sites are allowed to exist, because at some point, intelligence agencies realized they could monitor, study, and run psyops on the communities. KF is ALLOWED to exist. If feds wanted KF to be shut down, by god, it would disappear overnight and be replaced with an ominous FBI warning on the domain stating that the site had been shut down and its servers had been seized. And this could be done for whatever justification they wanted whether for hosting CSAM, revenge porn, animal torture porn, stalking, doxxing, or from violating copyright laws, or hosting pirated content. It doesn't stay online because Moon is some free speech martyr that moves heaven and earth to keep it online. That's just Jewsh/KF propaganda. It's ALLOWED to stay online. Probably because someone is monitoring it or scraping its data, or feeding its post data into an upcoming AI algorithm. Someone benefits from KF being online, so it stays online. And no, I don't mean the fat guy living in a trailer (Josh).

They don't shut down your extremist, radical site because they fear the extremist cockroaches will scatter into other more obscure places that they don't know about. In other words, it's more useful to keep KF up, than it is to shut it down, because at least when it's up, they know where it is, what you're saying on it, and what people are doing. It's a quarantined honeypot. They allow you to stay online because you're a lab rat getting studied by extremist researchers. This article even mentions Kiwi Farms by name directly!

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Here's a section talking about sowing counter-narratives on pol imageboards. In other words, subverting these boards.

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I would bet that it's easier to subvert Kiwi Farms, particularly in threads like USPG2. Intelligence agencies no doubt view Josh Moon as a useful idiot and someone that can be easily subverted for their agendas. Think about it. In the past, Josh cried about debanking for years, cried about being banned from social media, being blacklisted from services, and having KF blocked on the clearnet. Now in 2026, he's on every social media (with multiple accounts), on all payment processors, and faces no censorship of any kind. He's suddenly allowed to operate freely. He's suddenly swimming in money, raises lawfare gofundme's regularly for $100K whenever he wants, and wrote himself a fat 6-figure income out of nowhere. He conjured it up out of nothing. All this is happening at the same time that people are complaining that the site is being subverted and that the USPG2 thread has gone full Jew-worship, pro-Trump, pro-Israel, anti-Iran, and pro-war against the Middle East.

Ask yourself these questions. Do you personally know anyone that pays Moon money? I don't mean see their name on the Kiwi Farms posting with the 'True and Honest' tag on their profile. Do you know them in real life? And they tell you, "Yeah I pay for 'True and Honest' on Kiwi Farms." Or "Yeah, I pay him $20/month through bank checks." Because I don't and I bet you don't know anyone IRL either. KF is 2K-4K people worldwide so the likelihood you'd encounter someone IRL that even knows about it is pretty slim and especially a paypig, which is an even smaller sub-demographic. Anyway, I would imagine the Kiwi Farms is being used by various government agencies to run propaganda and subvert narratives. And the sudden influx of money into the site is related to that.

>B-b-but muh heckin' site is just a gossip lowcow site! That can't be true.
Sure, for those that merely open a fat woman's thread and yap about her. But let's stop pretending the site is just a gossip site. Maybe that's the smokescreen cover that gets deployed when there is controversy and Moon needs to cover his ass. That's what they masquerade as, when they're getting flak. In reality, the site has become more political over time, and has large, active politics threads. Josh regularly tries to influence people on his streams, gives his political opinions, contacts politicians and attempts to influence them, runs a fake political org, and many more things that I won't name. It's not just a gossip lolcow site. And I think at some point, intelligence agencies and governments realized it was better to allow KF to stay online, so that they could monitor it, read what the extremists are saying, scrape them for data about radicalization, and also to sow their own narratives and subvert it for propaganda purposes. Kiwi Farms has been subverted by psyops. The more political a site becomes, the more radicalization takes effect. And with more radicalization comes government surveillance and monitoring.

People do not go from being deplatformed, debanked, censored, and unable to make money to suddenly being platformed freely, banked with all payment processors, uncensored, and able to make hordes of money with the sudden flip of a switch. Look at a similar dissident. Andrew Anglin faced some of these same problems of being censored from the clearnet, having his domain URL's seized, banned from payment processors, and then he lost a total of $19M in lawfare against him. The lawyers said Anglin incited a "trollstorm" of harassment using his website against a Jewish woman named Tanya Gersh. But let's be honest. Whether that is true or not is irrelevant. It's just the vector those Jewish lawyers used to go after him and destroy him because he was the Neonazi larper guy that said bad things about groups of people. Just this year, Anglin said he was shutting down his site the Daily Stormer and said that almost the entirety of the last 5 years of the Daily Stormer was paid for by one guy. So when powerful Jewish lawyers and organizations wanted Anglin gone, they used lawfare and censorship to destroy him and make him irrelevant.

So then why would Moon suddenly be allowed to thrive and flourish when a similar dissident like Anglin is crushed and broken by institutions? Something's fishy here guys. I think it's quite possible that Moon has been given "the push." He is being allowed to flourish financially because he serves as good little lapdop acting as somebody's little bitch. We've already seen he's in DM's with Gabe Hoffman, a rich Jewish hedge fund manager, that creeps around the sector, engaging in lots of nasty business and life ruination stuff with his enemies. Why couldn't Hoffman be 50-100 of those $20/month bank checks? He could do that, if he wanted to influence or control Moon. Just last week, we say Josh trying to poke around the USPG2 thread, to inquire about getting some Jewish help against the latest DDoS attacks. On his podcasts, he had mentioned other people selling out and dancing for Jews, trying to get that Jew money. So clearly he thinks about this in his head. We've already seen other social media influencers that were getting paid to shill for Israel. Why wouldn't they go after Moon as well? I think none of Jewish groups attack Kiwi Farms because they recognize they already subverted it and control the narrative in the site's most popular threads. In other words, KF serves as controlled opposition.

You go to Kiwi Farms thinking you're found the underground of the internet, where all the edgy cool kid, free-thinkers reside. There should be lots of smart, capable, creative hip people there that can pontificate about any number of interesting things. KF should be like the dark counter-culture of the internet. Like some exclusive club of artists and thinkers.

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Instead, you go into USPG2 and it's just Baby Boomers and Jews that worship Trump, worship Israel, and shill for bombing Israel's enemies in the Middle East. It's just some Puritan religious cult that loves censorship and wants to blow up the world so Jesus can come back and they can be sucked up into heaven.

So whatever potential KF once had, Josh let it slip through his fingers and squandered it. He tried his best to fuck it into the dirt, drive off all the good posters, and replace his audience with new users that would only powder his ass and worship him. Josh would tell you he's the only person on the planet capable of running KF. But Josh IS the heavy handed censor whose fat ass is squishing the life out of the forum. KF has 2K-4K users at any one time. In an alternate timeline where Josh wasn't a retard, it probably could have grown to 100K active users. The fact he still has 3K users DESPITE Josh's efforts to fuck it into ashes is pretty amazing. It's interesting though that Josh lets TERF's and Soyteens say and post whatever they want. Probably because he thinks pandering to the soyteens will make KF grow, but it won't.

>Oh, I've found the free speech haven that lets me say whatever I want and explore any idea.
>Nope, you've just walked right into somebody's bought-and-paid-for, honeypot and propaganda outlet for Israel. Or TERFs. Or MAGA. Or whoever is paying Josh's bills that week.


Think about this. Josh Moon is notoriously bad with people and networking, who angers various people and groups, and has no charisma. His reputation is trashed and he is known by some groups only as a pedophile that runs a stalker forum. He is completely radioactive. Do you really think this type of person could raise all that money on a whim and out of the blue? Or is he being helped? No man is an island. It's similar to Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, or Jeff Bezos. Do you really think they became the world's richest men on their own or because they're just 200 IQ geniuses? Nope. They all got help. They all got pushed. They all got government money or benefitted from tax laws they helped lobby and push onto politicians, whose campaigns they paid for.

Occam's razor (simplest solution is correct/least assumptions is correct) suggests that Moon is being helped. And if you doubt this, you're probably one of those suckers that thinks Elon Musk achieved his success solely from hard work, his genius IQ, and by just pulling up his bootstraps.

Full radicalization research article where these snippets were taken from, here: https://archive.ph/OXL4i
Don't feel like you gotta read it though. I already pulled the juicy bits from it.
 

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Lunar is on point. if anyone is tracking Null's own statements about his site he all but admitted to shifting to becoming more of a political site than a lolcow site once it was brought back from the dead. the posts and active threads prove it, if its not some A&N pro-jew bullshit then its attacking some irrelevant fucker who's popularity peaked in the 2010s. Its not like 2018 where it seemed like Null had his finger on the pulse of the internet and there were amazing threads about random lolcows popping up every month and the whole Chris-chan stuff was still big.

Josh all but gave up following lolcows in 2020 with Chris' arrest. BMJ was the last big lolcow and Josh found him in 2023 right when the site came back up. unlike guys like the quartering or Rekeita or Ralph he wasn't some right winger that might lead users to go "supporting trump is for retards" but a nice non-political retard. wasn't he in the top 3 for LOTY? who were the other two, the sole leftists people still post about on KF, idubbz and hasan.

Hasan still has some juice but idubbz is a relic of the 2010s, Destiny's popularity completely collapsed and is a great example of kiwifarms actually harrasssing people and destroying them, but the average kiwifarms user will just go "he deserves it for being a pedo" but will also say that about Turkey Tom, Ruben Sim and Jet Neptune despite there being similarly flimsey evidence.

I've also noticed the users i actually like have seemed to have fucked off. the iran war sperging has seemed to really leave a bad taste in everyone's mouths. BMJ got arrested in March and overall 2026 is a fucking terrible year if you're using KF for anything beyond cheering on Israel.
 
Do we know how well his last grift worked out monetarily? Maybe he didn't make the cash he wanted and he needs to backtrack a little?
Do you guys think PPP has seen Josh?
The reason I bring this up is because I recently saw this post by some Nitter alog account. If Josh is having hi-res meetings with random people and making enemies all around, is a facedox imminent?
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but will also say that about Turkey Tom, Ruben Sim and Jet Neptune despite there being similarly flimsey evidence.
I’ve seen that for Turkey and Jet but uhh. Ruben? I don’t think I’ve seen any kiwis call Ruben a pedo. I mean yeah I don’t exactly go onto the roblox thread so maybe its super common or something and I just don’t know but I thought they liked Ruben because he went after pedos and lolicons, same with Schlep.
 
I’ve seen that for Turkey and Jet but uhh. Ruben? I don’t think I’ve seen any kiwis call Ruben a pedo. I mean yeah I don’t exactly go onto the roblox thread so maybe its super common or something and I just don’t know but I thought they liked Ruben because he went after pedos and lolicons, same with Schlep.
Ruben and Schlep defended Turkey Tom and Ruben didn't know what the big deal was about Turkey Tom being into ageplay, meaning he doesn't think ageplay is weird or odd, which means he is very likely a pedo
 
Being fair here, the Predator Hunter community has always been pretty lolcowish. You'd think online predator hunters would be reserved and humble and professional and Based and Redpilled but a lot of predator hunters on the Internet are straight up laughable retards.

The best example so far that shows everything that is wrong with the Predator Hunter community continues to be Mama Max where they guy lied to everyone and tried to destroy innocent lives while manipulating the public into thinking he was the good guy. When the receipts about Mama Max were made public, everyone turned against Mama Max and realized he was an attention-seeking monster that didn't cared about which innocent lives he tried to ruin.

While Mama Max remains the best example, other notable people in the Predator Hunting community are now starting to be seen as lolcows.

You have Alex Rosen of Predator Poachers where that guy is now in a lot of hot water for helping Chud the Builder in his legal fees (a right-wing commentator that is currently being charged with attempted murder and was known to rage bait people in public with racist remarks) where Alex Rosen's decision to help a man being charged with attempted murder has been so bad for Alex Rosen's optics that it caused even high profile predator hunters like JiDion to permanently cut their ties with Alex Rosen. It didn't helped that Alex Rosen admitted that he was treating Chud the Builder as a higher priority over catching online predators where many now see Alex Rosen as a dime store grifter that only uses predator hunting as a front for his own selfish gain and contributing to extremist politics. Alex Rosen is a pariah now because of this.

Speaking of which, there was recently JiDion where he got into recent trouble with local law enforcement where he was charged for disturbing the peace and stalking because JiDion had a nigga moment where he irrationally and needlessly escalated a situation with the local police that lead to his embarrassing arrest that was caught on camera (such as how JiDion claimed that he was above the law because he has money which didn't really sit well with many people on the Internet for obvious reasons). Mind you that while the charges against JiDion were dropped later on, that incident has left a very nasty stain on JiDion's online reputation where that incident made him look like an arrogant lolcow jackass with no self-awareness.

As for Ruben Sim, I don't think I can blame the Kiwis that much if they really do hate him now. There are allegations against Ruben Sim that state he used to run porn games on Roblox where allegedly he knowingly invited minors into these games and then claimed it was a joke; if those allegations are true then Ruben Sim is just another loser lolcow that deserves sympathy from no one (it doesn't help that there are also allegations against Ruben Sim where he had ties to extremist Dissident Right groups on Roblox back when he played the game).

The Predator Hunting community I consider it to be pretty lolcow worthy because the Predator Hunting community is filled to the brim with a clash of monumentally big egos, back stabbing, double-crossing, deception, embezzlement, betrayal, and grifting (just like every other lolcow community on the Internet). If you ask me, it's only a matter of time until the Predator Hunting community as we know it inevitably collapses under its own weight because everything about it is a ticking time bomb that's slowly reaching zero hour where eventually it will explode and takes everything down with it.

Nobody likes child predators but nobody likes arrogant wise asses either.
 
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Kiwifarms just sucks. It's filled with moronic and evil people, and the guy at the helm of the operation is one of the worst spastic cunts out there.
It's full of retards just like him, male/female, to varying degrees. Those are his diehard core users.
Think about this. Josh Moon is notoriously bad with people and networking, who angers various people and groups, and has no charisma.
He could be a rich fag's pin cushion. Literally. We all know he'd let a rich fag use him in exchange for cash.
 
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/escape...ossmann-edition.124966/page-145#post-25170649
https://archive.is/oRUky
"The issue is that all transgender people are mentally ill. It is dangerous to associate them because they will inevitably crack and start harassing the people who help them. They all do this. It's a byproduct of the psychosexual dysfunction that is literally the core defining component of their identity."

Remember how long it took joshy to PO CDG...?

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/little_girl-in-the-new-doom-dlc.250534/page-2#post-25171116
https://archive.is/bWwNl
"If it's shipped in a AAA production release it's news. If it's digital art it's not CSAM. Please stop using CSAM to describe pure fiction. The term has a legal definition that no abstract creation can ever meet."

But anime pfp = Nonce, right?

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/wood-v...s-website-he-didnt-make.250546/#post-25171952
https://archive.is/wip/1oDXh

"British people are always scum"
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"Whose yer daddy?"

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/escape...ossmann-edition.124966/page-147#post-25172313
https://archive.is/6Ts0B
"it's such a shame retards aren't killed at birth"
This is in reply to a comment about joshys jannies being troons... then....

"??? bro i cant even keep my shit up wtf am i going to do"
Tard brain... can't get on your knees for CDG anymore....
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"Just a case of chickens coming home to roost..."
 
Probably late but I saw a Mister Metokur thing pointing out Moon sucked in at least 300k from his users in around a year. That's staggering for their reach and technical requirements. There is no possible way hosting a forum costs that much no matter how often he pulls the ethernet cable and blames trannies. It's really not rocket science. Just use ChatGPT and can learn it in 15 minutes.
 
Probably late but I saw a Mister Metokur thing pointing out Moon sucked in at least 300k from his users in around a year. That's staggering for their reach and technical requirements. There is no possible way hosting a forum costs that much no matter how often he pulls the ethernet cable and blames trannies. It's really not rocket science. Just use ChatGPT and can learn it in 15 minutes.
300k US dollars is a house.

You can buy a house with that money.

What is Jersh even doing with that money in the first place? I really want to know because 300k is enough to buy a fucking house.
 
300k US dollars is a house.

You can buy a house with that money.

What is Jersh even doing with that money in the first place? I really want to know because 300k is enough to buy a fucking house.
Hopefully laundering it for his rich jew sugar daddy. I hope Jersh stays Jersh and steals from him to buy an overpriced video card for his AI porn so the jew slaps him back into the gutter-and hopefully prison, where he belongs. Thus completing the circle of lolcow.
 
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/ddos-attacks.249474/page-114#post-25178585
https://archive.is/ciYiF
"I haven't updated in a few days but this is what my week has looked like:
- Got cheap protection from one smaller provider
- Got three more lined up from existing services we use that I am going to mesh together
- Word of our situation has reached two big boys who I've spoken to and have softened their stances on "never KF"
- Got a quote from three of the largest providers in the world that are within the realm of possibilities.
- Asked a very big boy (very serious company) to double-triple check KF is OK on their networks with suits. Getting them in our anycast is basically DDoS problem solved forever."

joshy is explaining to the kwiffar what zhe has been doing to keep zher hugbox up...

"Radware won't take it. Their bid was $4500-5300/mo but management said no. Israel has failed us."

Three houwers layteeerrrrr...

"There is none. They don't want us."
Both joshy and Wacko were into boys...
 

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