I have noticed something peculiar about Josh Moon's writing. Even though he prides himself on being a good writer, he is ignorant of proper English grammar and punctuation rules. Specifically, he doesn't understand that quotation marks go on the outside of the period (when you are using quotation marks at the end of a sentence). Now, I'm going to try to explain this without getting too bogged down in English grammar rules. The question mark, the comma, and the exclamation mark have rules regarding where they go within quotation marks as well. And this can change depending on content but I'm going to try to avoid all these and focus merely on the period and its relation to quotation marks.
Why are we doing this? Because Josh Moon is believed to be have been using several sock accounts on his site, specifically 3322 and Lidl Drip. When a person writes, the grammar and punctuation rules are mostly being done subconsciously. People write the way they were taught in school. This is also a clue as a person is not likely to be going deep enough in-character to change innate biases in their writing style, even while using a sock account and pretending to be someone else. A person's writing and style can sometimes be a stronger clue than the specific message's content itself.
There are times when Josh thinks he's a big boy and wants to write a long essay about something he thinks is important. We've seen him doing this on X, on Kiwi Farms, and on some journal blogging site (Substack). When he writes these essays, he tries to use correct English and good grammar. This is what I'm interested in because these are examples of him writing at his best. This is in contrast to when he's phone-posting and not giving a damn about his writing or grammar. We can sometimes see him writing in all lowercase and not caring about punctuation. However, when he does this, it's rare and it's usually the exception rather than the rule. Most times, he tries to write well. And that's what we'll be examining.
So what are the punctuation rules? If you learned American English, the period is always followed by the quotation marks (if you are ending the sentence by using quotation marks).
Don't believe me? Grab a book and open it up. Published books are run through editors and usually have a high standard of literacy. So they are good standards of correct grammar and punctuation rules in practice. I grabbed "Lord of the Flies" from my bookshelf. As you can see, quotation marks go on the outside of a period or comma.
Just skim it. Take a peek at the periods and quotation marks.
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Now let's take a look at the grammar/punctuation rules.
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Also, I'm not the only one to notice this writing quirk from Josh. I clipped this from a stream I was watching months ago.
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Now that we know what we're looking for, let's take a look at the 3 users under suspicion.
Josh Moon. 3322. Lidl Drip.
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I need to post a lot of screenshots here. Bear with me. You don't actually have to read the text in these posts. Just look at my yellow highlights. No need to focus on what the people are actually saying in the posts. Focus on the yellow.
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In this one, Josh only gets the period and quotation mark correct because he just copy-pasted somebody else's direct quote.
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Josh only gets this one technically correct because he wanted to include a smug emoji. Which is an emoji Lidl Drip loved to use btw.
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The comma is supposed to go inside the quotation marks.
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Oh. He gets this one correct. Is he spell-checking and grammar-checking with AI tools now?
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On this final one, I had to combine a bunch of posts because I've reached the attachment limit on Onion Farms. On some of these he's missing a comma before the quote. But he's mostly placing commas and periods outside the quotation marks.
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Ok, we've established Josh thinks the quotation mark goes after the period. And he doesn't understand where a comma goes within a quotation mid-sentence.
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Now let's look at 3322 when he's at his finest on the Keffals thread. Once again, only focus on the yellow highlights.
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This is a rare time when 3322 gets it right by accident. He puts the quotation mark outside of the question mark.
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In this one, 3322 gets it wrong at the top with the comma and gets it right at the bottom for the exclamation mark.
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3322 gets this wrong by adding a comma after the quotation mark when it's not needed but this falls in line with his earlier false thinking that the comma goes outside the quotation mark. He's also missing a comma after "people."
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He gets it wrong here twice.
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In this one, 3322 adds an extra period when the exclamation mark already served that purpose of ending the sentence. It falls in line with not understanding that the exclamation mark or a quotation mark can end a sentence and that's fine.
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Ok, we've established that 3322 thinks the period goes outside the quotation mark and is confused by various other rules with commas, quotation marks, and exclamation marks.
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Now let's take a look at Lidl Drip. Surely "she" knows better, right? Once again, focus on the yellow highlights.
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Oh? "She" gets these 2 correct because "she's" using exclamation marks.
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"She" gets this one right because "she's" using an exclamation mark.
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"She" gets this one right again due to the exclamation marks.
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On this one, "she" typed a 'colon' and then a 'D' to get the "big grin emoji." "She" only gets the quotation mark correct here because "she" wanted to use an emoji. We saw Josh do this up above when he wanted to use the smug emoji. Anyway, you are still missing a period.
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Even on "her" final post, "she" was still getting it wrong.
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Ok, we've established that Lidl Drip thinks periods go after quotation marks when they end a sentence and doesn't understand other nuanced grammar and punctuation rules.
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-Josh, despite being an American, writes in the British style (on this specific rule about quotation marks in relation to periods or commas).
-3322 writes in the British style.
-Lidl Drip writes in the British style.
Wow! Isn't it weird that all 3 people are doing the exact same grammar/punctuation mistake? It's almost like they are the same person, the entire time!
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Now, 3322 claims to be a non-American. Presumably, they are some kind of European. But they never specified and once refused to give out a book title in their language because they were ostensibly scared of revealing their country of origin. Lidl Drip claimed to be Belgian. Belgians would adopt the British style of grammar and punctuation, according to what I'm seeing on the internet. So it is a possibility that Lidl Drip was an actual Belgian woman named Maria Martinez. And if English was her second language she learned in school, we would expect to see British punctuation and grammar rules. But then why is Josh Moon writing in the British style? How ironic since he hates the British so much. Well, he did drop out of school/got expelled in the 10th grade. The longer you spend outside of school and not reading or writing, the more likely you are to forget specific nitpicky rules. Or maybe he just never learned them correctly to begin with. The "why" doesn't really matter here.
What's important is that Josh Moon does this specific writing quirk and he's likely not even aware that he is doing it. I have seen it many times. If he uses quotation marks and they are in relation to a period or a comma, Josh gets it wrong almost every time. He doesn't know or understand that he's making a grammar/punctuation mistake. And despite 3322 and Lidl Drip claiming to be European/Belgian, from my perspective, it just looks like 3 people making the same grammatical error. Also, both Lidl and 3322 do not come across as ESL speakers struggling to express themselves. None of their posts that I have read are obtuse or hard to understand. They never struggle to get their point across or combine words in novel or funny ways, like you'd see in ESL speakers. In fact, 3322 and Lidl Drip come across as native English speakers and writers; they use hip memes and try to be funny or cute sometimes. The English language is never a barrier to expression for them. So when 3322 and Lidl are skin-walking as Josh, while also making the same grammatical errors Josh makes, it's going to feed into my own cognitive bias and I'm just going to think, "Yep there's Josh on his sock accounts making the same punctuation errors on all 3 of them like an idiot."
Reminder that 3322 wrote the Keffals thread. And Lidl Drip wrote the Sam Hyde thread. Josh hates both of these people. He hates Keffals because Keffals tried to destroy Kiwi Farms and got into a big blood-feud with Moon over social media over it, where he was doxxing Josh's Mom. And of course, the 3322 Keffals thread goes into great detail on every bit of Keffal's personal life, doxxing his family and so on. Josh hates Sam Hyde because Sam Hyde called Josh "nuclear waste." And Josh invited on an ex-girlfriend of Sam Hyde's on a livestream, hoping she would trash Sam Hyde. And Josh has insisted that Sam Hyde groomed and raped this woman (Marky) when she was underage 15-16 (statutory rape) when Sam was 29. As a male feminist, this was one thing that made Josh really mad in the past. The Sam Hyde and Marky incident is also what the Lidl Drip Sam Hyde thread focuses on. It's almost as if the entire purpose of the Sam Hyde thread (written by Lidl Drip) was to destroy Sam Hyde over the Marky incident.
Now, it could have been a scenario where we looked at all 3 accounts (Josh, 3322, Lidl Drip) and each one was using conflicting styles. Let's imagine Josh was using American style, 3322 was using British style, and Lidl Drip was using American style. Under this hypothetical scenario, I think it would be fair to say that all 3 users are probably real and distinct people with differing viewpoints and identities. I would consider that compelling evidence they are 3 different people. Instead, that's not what we observed! In reality, we see all 3 accounts (Josh Moon, 3322, Lidl Drip) using the British style! As such, I consider that to be compelling evidence that they are the same person! Keep in mind, there is likely never going to be a smoking gun that definitely proves 3322 and Lidl Drip are Moon's sock accounts. That's just not how it works. 3322 and Lidl Drip were retired and abandoned as accounts after they served their purposes. The longer you use a sock, the more obvious it becomes that it's you, as you leave a paper trail on the internet. So sock accounts get abandoned over time.
There are many times in trials where the prosecutor doesn't have a smoking gun bit of evidence but there is enough circumstantial evidence to show that the suspect did commit a crime. In other words, you may not have all the pieces of the puzzle, but if you look at the big overall picture, you will come to the correct conclusion. Even though the analogy is not 1:1 here because we are not at a trial or looking to convict anyone of a crime, the concepts are relevant. I think there is enough evidence to conclude all 3 accounts are the same person. If you selected 12 random jurors and went through all the evidence, they would conclude it's the same person according to the preponderance of evidence (a claim is more likely true than not, 51%).
I think there have been times where 3322 and Lidl Drip overplayed their hands and went too far in pushing Josh's views, interests, and talking points. When you push too far, you've revealed your hand and exposed yourself that you're just a sock account. Obviously, I can't link everything in a single post. So if you only look at this specific post expecting me to prove it, you're not gonna "get" it. I'm only speaking to the hardcore users who are familiar with Moon and with Lidl Drip and 3322. If you're just some casual MATI fan that started watching his podcast 2 months ago, you're never gonna get it. You've got to read the threads or at least familiarize yourself with the users I'm talking about.
Even in the off-chance that 3322 and Lidl Drip are real people, if you behave like Moon, pushing his talking points, talk like him, style yourself after him, and just overall skin-walk as him, then you deserve to be labeled as a sock account. In other words, if you have no identity and just skin-walk as Josh Moon to the point where at least 50% of people think you're Moon's sock account, then you don't deserve to have a distinct separate identity. I'm more than happy to strip you of all humanity and identity and reduce you down to just being some fat slob's backup account. It's also funnier that way. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, it's fair to just call it a duck at some point. If it acts like Josh, talks like Josh, repeats Josh's talking points, and yaps about things only Josh would know about himself or care about, then it's safe to just say that you're Josh. It's the most logical and elegant conclusion.
Btw, I'm not opposed to being wrong. If 3322 or Lidl Drip want to prove me wrong, do it. Lidl Drip can go on a Josh Moon alog stream like KillKinoKasino and give her side of the story. Prove that you're not a sock account. You love attention, right? Judging from the things you posted on KF and all the ragebait you posted over time. And prove the Lidl account is yours by logging into it and writing something new. Or post a pic with a timestamp that would link you to the Lidl KF account. You don't have to doxx yourself either. But that won't happen. It never will. Because you're just a Josh Moon sock account and that's all you ever will be.
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