I'm just pointing out the immediate flaws. I'm not saying you can't be unconventionally attractive and popular. However Josh's ugliness goes beyond just his physical appearance it's him as a person.Soft disagree, you don't have to be attractive to be a well loved figure, you just can't be slovenly, you have to put effort into your appearance and create a public persona that people find affable. Jocelyns lack of popularity goes much deeper than looks.