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We are not advocating anything illegal. We are not actively conspiring to allow 40 year olds to cross state lines to fuck a 16 year old. We are not rewriting legal codes for the feds or the state. It is a discussion board. If someone on their off-time decides they want to cross state lines and fuck a 16 year old and are caught, it's their problem, not ours.
You weren't but another user was which is why they got banned for a day.
 
Well how about next time when you're in the discord with us and I explain a 24-hour ban AT LENGTH, you say something before the 24 hours is over?

You had the power of the entire time to unban Ishtar. It seems to me like you let me go ahead with the ban, and because it wasn't popular you're going to pretend like you're mad at me over it now that the ban is over.

You knew I banned Ishtar. You did nothing. You said nothing. You let the ban wrap up. And now you're pretending like you're upset that she got banned.

This was not something that went over your head and under your nose. I gave you the Iggy about this the second I did it. I told you here and I told you in one of our DMs. Don't tell me you didn't check either of those alerts.

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You knew on discord and you knew on here. Look at where I told you on staff chats right after I banned her. Literally the next response is you.

@Ishtar I was reactionary and I apologize and I will loosen up on the moderation style, and next time I'll make it more clear if I'm trying to get you to steer away from a subject or if I'm trying to just win an argument. Because it wasn't about me proving myself right I was trying to get you to stop and you wouldn't stop. There's a lot of scrutiny right now and there's a lot of scrutiny on the horizon, so we need to stay away from topics like that unless it's an obvious joke.

And to everybody I'm sorry about being such a tight ass. My apologies about the Ishtar ban, I was wrong on that one and I'm an adult enough to admit that I fucked up.
You have a point. Yours truly can be just as much of a dumbass as anyone else. And I have to admit it's probably true more often than I would care to admit. My apologies here as well.
 
First off:
"Federal law mandates that individuals must be at least 18 to consent to sexual activity if the activity involves interstate travel or online communication with a minor. This means that even if a state's age of consent is lower than 18, the federal standard will apply in specific cases."

Federal law overrides state law. I don't give a shit what places are late to the party of making the age of consent 18, because what is legal isn't always moral and what is moral isn't always legal. If an adult crosses state or country lines to meet a 16 year old for sex that is still a sex crime and it is sex trafficking to take a minor to a place where it is legal to fuck them for a reason. And let's not act like that is meant to allow 40 year olds to fuck 16 year olds because it's clearly meant to be for the Romeo and Juliet laws. This is not the hill to die on and it's off topic. Advocating for doing both illegal and morally reprehensible shit is ban worthy.

Smokey and the bandit voice: GOT A BROAD IN THE CAR, TOOK HER ACROSS THE STATE LINE, AND THAT'S THE MANN ACT!


BANK ROBBIN IS BABY SHIT ALONGSIDE WHAT THIS DUDE'S DOIN!!!
 
Reason: Oh damn I just looked it up in the mann act is still in effect
Smokey and the bandit voice: GOT A BROAD IN THE CAR, TOOK HER ACROSS THE STATE LINE, AND THAT'S THE MANN ACT!


BANK ROBBIN IS BABY SHIT ALONGSIDE WHAT THIS DUDE'S DOIN!!!
I don't know about that. Bank robbery is pretty serious business.

A penalty for a Mann Act violation, also known as the "White Slavery Act," can result in a maximum of 10 years in federal prison and a fine for transporting adults across state lines for illegal sexual activity. Penalties are significantly harsher when the offense involves a minor (under 18), potentially including mandatory minimum sentences. In addition to imprisonment and fines, a conviction can lead to other consequences like asset forfeiture and mandatory sex offender registration.
The typical penalty for a federal bank robbery ranges from several years in prison to life imprisonment or even the death penalty, depending on the circumstances. Because most banks and credit unions are federally insured, robbery of these institutions is usually prosecuted as a federal crime under 18 U.S.C. § 2113. The severity of the punishment depends on the level of force used and the harm caused.
 
Smokey and the bandit voice: GOT A BROAD IN THE CAR, TOOK HER ACROSS THE STATE LINE, AND THAT'S THE MANN ACT!


BANK ROBBIN IS BABY SHIT ALONGSIDE WHAT THIS DUDE'S DOIN!!!
Using the same logic that they are using to defend middle aged men fucking 16 year olds you could easily make the argument the age of consent is 11 in Nigeria so letting Africans post jailbait photos isn't a crime.
 
Reason: Imagine haggling about the age of consent like trying to get a deal on something at hobby lobby. How well do you think that will go over if they were catfished by the police or Ruben Sim or something.
I don't know about that. Bank robbery is pretty serious business.

A penalty for a Mann Act violation, also known as the "White Slavery Act," can result in a maximum of 10 years in federal prison and a fine for transporting adults across state lines for illegal sexual activity. Penalties are significantly harsher when the offense involves a minor (under 18), potentially including mandatory minimum sentences. In addition to imprisonment and fines, a conviction can lead to other consequences like asset forfeiture and mandatory sex offender registration.
The typical penalty for a federal bank robbery ranges from several years in prison to life imprisonment or even the death penalty, depending on the circumstances. Because most banks and credit unions are federally insured, robbery of these institutions is usually prosecuted as a federal crime under 18 U.S.C. § 2113. The severity of the punishment depends on the level of force used and the harm caused.

I don't know dude my buddy from high school only got 7 years for robbing a bank and if you violate the mann act you can get 10 or more.

And I mean plus you'll have to go to prison with the stigma of violating the mann act on you.

Hahaha it's so awesome that we still have a "white slavery law" to protect white women from being violated on the books.
 
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Using the same logic that they are using to defend middle aged men fucking 16 year olds you could easily make the argument the age of consent is 11 in Nigeria so letting Africans post jailbait photos isn't a crime.
The age of consent in Nigeria is 18 years old, but the law is inconsistently applied across the country. The discrepancy is largely due to the existence of different legal frameworks governing different regions.
Legal frameworks in Nigeria
  • Child Rights Act (CRA): This federal law, which has been adopted by many but not all Nigerian states, sets the age of consent at 18. Under the CRA, any sexual intercourse with a person under 18 is considered rape.
  • Criminal Code Act: This law applies to the states in Southern Nigeria. It also stipulates the age of consent as 18.
  • Penal Code Act: This law governs the Northern states and is influenced by Sharia law. Under the Penal Code, the age of consent for girls depends on their marital status, not their age. This means a girl who is married is considered to be of full age, regardless of her actual age.
Complicating factors
  • Adoption of the CRA: Not all states have fully adopted and domesticated the Child Rights Act. In some states, especially in the North, older interpretations of the law or local customs regarding child marriage may still be practiced.
  • Child marriage: The practice of child marriage continues, particularly in Northern Nigeria. This is sometimes justified by the Penal Code and a controversial constitutional provision stating that "any woman who is married shall be deemed to be of full age".
  • Efforts to raise the age: Organizations like the Malala Fund have run campaigns, such as the #raisetheage petition, to advocate for a single, consistent age of consent of 18 across Nigeria.
 
Using the same logic that they are using to defend middle aged men fucking 16 year olds you could easily make the argument the age of consent is 11 in Nigeria so letting Africans post jailbait photos isn't a crime.

Dude up until a few years ago the age of consent in Japan was 13. There are parts of Mexico where the age of consent is 12.

That doesn't make it right.

I'm not trying to flame up the conversation again and stir the pot, I'm just saying people around here shouldn't be advocating violating the mann act 😂
 
Reason: The mann act is my new favorite thing. BASED white woman protection law.
The age of consent in Nigeria is 18 years old, but the law is inconsistently applied across the country. The discrepancy is largely due to the existence of different legal frameworks governing different regions.
Legal frameworks in Nigeria
  • Child Rights Act (CRA): This federal law, which has been adopted by many but not all Nigerian states, sets the age of consent at 18. Under the CRA, any sexual intercourse with a person under 18 is considered rape.
  • Criminal Code Act: This law applies to the states in Southern Nigeria. It also stipulates the age of consent as 18.
  • Penal Code Act: This law governs the Northern states and is influenced by Sharia law. Under the Penal Code, the age of consent for girls depends on their marital status, not their age. This means a girl who is married is considered to be of full age, regardless of her actual age.
Complicating factors
  • Adoption of the CRA: Not all states have fully adopted and domesticated the Child Rights Act. In some states, especially in the North, older interpretations of the law or local customs regarding child marriage may still be practiced.
  • Child marriage: The practice of child marriage continues, particularly in Northern Nigeria. This is sometimes justified by the Penal Code and a controversial constitutional provision stating that "any woman who is married shall be deemed to be of full age".
  • Efforts to raise the age: Organizations like the Malala Fund have run campaigns, such as the #raisetheage petition, to advocate for a single, consistent age of consent of 18 across Nigeria.

Trying to bump the law up to 18?

Nigeria wins AGAIN.
 
I accept your apology.

I don't appreciate having my words misrepresented as "defending sleeping with underage girls". I made two posts on the topic, one of which was posting the actual state laws. Kiwifarmers slandering people they don't like as pedos is very relevant to to the thread and will be something people here want to discuss.

There is no reason to censor discussion on this.

Intent versus impact.

You may not have intended to come across as defending someone my age having sex with a 16 year old, but that was the impact of responding to what I said with a map of the locations where it's legal to pork a little kid.

But like @Gore San pointed out, that map is basically useless because like I said federal law overrules it when you're moving across state lines.

Not only that but like he said also, sometimes laws are gross. You have to put your morals first. Nazi Germany had a lot of laws that I wouldn't have followed. Like public smoking ban? Fuck all that.

But seriously though sometimes you have to make sure when you're on the weird side of an argument that you clarify yourself because it's seriously seemed like you were advocating for middle-aged men to have sex with girls still in high school. At the time I thought you were a guy so that compounded the creepiness.
 
Trying to bump the law up to 18?

Nigeria wins AGAIN.
Nigeria is one of those states that has a big religious fault line running through it. The southern half of the country is predominately Christian while the Northern part is predominately Muslim.

Before you pass judgment:
In the 1800s, ages of consent in the United States varied by state, but they were generally low, with most states having an age of 10 or 12 by 1880. A notable exception was Delaware, which had an age of consent of 7 in 1885. By the early 1900s, efforts by social purity movements led to an increase, with many states raising the age to 16 or 18 by 1920.

Range of Ages
  • Most Common Ages: By 1880, 37 states had an age of consent of 10 years, while 10 states had an age of 12 years.

  • Delaware: In 1885, Delaware's age of consent was 7 years old.
Changes Over Time

  • Reform Movement:
    .

    A social purity movement in the late 19th century advocated for raising the age of consent, aiming for 16, 18, or 21.
  • Early 20th Century:
    .

    These efforts were largely successful; by 1920, many states had raised their age of consent to 16 or 18.
Context
  • State Variation: The age of consent was not uniform across the country.

  • Influence of the 1885 Law: The 1885 law setting the age at 16 in some jurisdictions is a crucial part of understanding how consent laws developed.
Update: No! I don't justify porking an underage minor across state lines just to make sure there is no confusion.
 
The age of consent in Nigeria is 18 years old, but the law is inconsistently applied across the country. The discrepancy is largely due to the existence of different legal frameworks governing different regions.
Legal frameworks in Nigeria
  • Child Rights Act (CRA): This federal law, which has been adopted by many but not all Nigerian states, sets the age of consent at 18. Under the CRA, any sexual intercourse with a person under 18 is considered rape.
  • Criminal Code Act: This law applies to the states in Southern Nigeria. It also stipulates the age of consent as 18.
  • Penal Code Act: This law governs the Northern states and is influenced by Sharia law. Under the Penal Code, the age of consent for girls depends on their marital status, not their age. This means a girl who is married is considered to be of full age, regardless of her actual age.
Complicating factors
  • Adoption of the CRA: Not all states have fully adopted and domesticated the Child Rights Act. In some states, especially in the North, older interpretations of the law or local customs regarding child marriage may still be practiced.
  • Child marriage: The practice of child marriage continues, particularly in Northern Nigeria. This is sometimes justified by the Penal Code and a controversial constitutional provision stating that "any woman who is married shall be deemed to be of full age".
  • Efforts to raise the age: Organizations like the Malala Fund have run campaigns, such as the #raisetheage petition, to advocate for a single, consistent age of consent of 18 across Nigeria.
Whatever, insert any country where fucking really low age kids is legal and the concept of my argument still stands.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_by_country
 
the Northern part is predominately Muslim.

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That would explain the inconsistencies with the age of consent.
 
Whatever, insert any country where fucking really low age kids is legal and the concept of my argument still stands.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_by_country
I agree but the USA still has some work to do in this area:
Based on a study by the organization Unchained At Last covering 2000 to 2018, the top 10 states with the highest per-capita rate of child marriage were:
  • Nevada
  • Idaho
  • Arkansas
  • Kentucky
  • Oklahoma
  • Wyoming
  • Utah
  • Alabama
  • West Virginia
  • Mississippi
Other states with high overall child marriage totals
While per-capita rates provide a standardized comparison across states, total numbers paint a different picture, especially in more populous states. During the same period (2000–2018), states with a high overall number of child marriages included:
  • Texas
  • California
  • Florida
  • Nevada
  • North Carolina
Important considerations
When reviewing these numbers, it is important to note:
  • Child marriage is not a new phenomenon. A study by the Journal of Adolescent Health found that from 2000 to 2018, over 300,000 children were legally married in the US, most of them girls married to adult men.
  • Most child marriages in the US are female. The majority of minors who were married between 2000 and 2018 were girls.
  • Laws are changing. As of July 2025, 16 states have banned marriage for anyone under 18, closing loopholes that previously allowed it. These include Delaware, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Rhode Island, New York, Massachusetts, Vermont, Connecticut, Michigan, Washington, Virginia, New Hampshire, Oregon, and Missouri.
  • Child marriage still occurs. In the remaining states, underage marriage is still legal under certain circumstances, such as with parental or judicial consent.
 

Okay so I had a little bit more faith in my country thinking the age of consent was 18. Boy am I a dummy.

You certainly got my number, madam. You've proven that there are states that are disgusting enough to let people have sex with children still in high school.

I don't know why you're savoring the flavor of that victory so much but I just still think it's gross and wrong.
 
And you're misrepresenting my two separate quotes.

The first one was me mistakenly thinking that the age of consent was 18 across the board.

The second one was me saying that I still disregard the laws that say the age of consent should be younger than 18, because morally I think it should be 18 no matter what. I don't care what the law says 16 is too young.

Again, impact versus intent. You really have a hard time trying to articulate yourself.
 
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That would explain the inconsistencies with the age of consent.
I was going to say "I bet I know which parts have the really low ages of consent and which ones have 18."
Nigeria is one of those states that has a big religious fault line running through it. The southern half of the country is predominately Christian while the Northern part is predominately Muslim.

Before you pass judgment:
In the 1800s, ages of consent in the United States varied by state, but they were generally low, with most states having an age of 10 or 12 by 1880. A notable exception was Delaware, which had an age of consent of 7 in 1885. By the early 1900s, efforts by social purity movements led to an increase, with many states raising the age to 16 or 18 by 1920.

Range of Ages
  • Most Common Ages: By 1880, 37 states had an age of consent of 10 years, while 10 states had an age of 12 years.

  • Delaware: In 1885, Delaware's age of consent was 7 years old.
Changes Over Time

  • Reform Movement:
    .

    A social purity movement in the late 19th century advocated for raising the age of consent, aiming for 16, 18, or 21.
  • Early 20th Century:
    .

    These efforts were largely successful; by 1920, many states had raised their age of consent to 16 or 18.
Context
  • State Variation: The age of consent was not uniform across the country.

  • Influence of the 1885 Law: The 1885 law setting the age at 16 in some jurisdictions is a crucial part of understanding how consent laws developed.
Update: No! I don't justify porking an underage minor across state lines just to make sure there is no confusion.
Also I wasn't trying to shit on them specifically because I almost said the Philippines instead. But if Nigeria is 18 and some US states are lower then US is being outdone by Africa and they look good in comparison.
 
I agree but the USA still has some work to do in this area:
Based on a study by the organization Unchained At Last covering 2000 to 2018, the top 10 states with the highest per-capita rate of child marriage were:
  • Nevada
  • Idaho
  • Arkansas
  • Kentucky
  • Oklahoma
  • Wyoming
  • Utah
  • Alabama
  • West Virginia
  • Mississippi
Other states with high overall child marriage totals
While per-capita rates provide a standardized comparison across states, total numbers paint a different picture, especially in more populous states. During the same period (2000–2018), states with a high overall number of child marriages included:
  • Texas
  • California
  • Florida
  • Nevada
  • North Carolina
Important considerations
When reviewing these numbers, it is important to note:
  • Child marriage is not a new phenomenon. A study by the Journal of Adolescent Health found that from 2000 to 2018, over 300,000 children were legally married in the US, most of them girls married to adult men.
  • Most child marriages in the US are female. The majority of minors who were married between 2000 and 2018 were girls.
  • Laws are changing. As of July 2025, 16 states have banned marriage for anyone under 18, closing loopholes that previously allowed it. These include Delaware, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Rhode Island, New York, Massachusetts, Vermont, Connecticut, Michigan, Washington, Virginia, New Hampshire, Oregon, and Missouri.
  • Child marriage still occurs. In the remaining states, underage marriage is still legal under certain circumstances, such as with parental or judicial consent.

Hey come on now my first marriage was a child marriage 😢
 
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