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Just because Kiwi Farms believes everyone who admits to liking sexy women is a porn addict does not mean porn addiction is not a real thing
When did I ever say porn addiction isn’t a real thing. You’re making up stuff to get upset about.
 
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I believe Kiwi Farms is obsessed with porn addiction because of the very real tendency for trannies on the internet to be porn addicts.

Kiwi Farms also always needs the moral high ground and calling someone a porn addict (which according to them is one step from being a troon or a pedophile) is a way to win arguments.
Both of these are true, and I've always thought there's a third reason as well: A lot of Kiwis are themselves heavily into porn, possibly even a lot of the really evil stuff they get onto other people for (like lolicon). I've said before, a lot of them seem to know way too much about that stuff.

Also its amazing that these people spent years going after the SJWs for hating beauty and wanting to uglify women and shame men for finding women attractive, then they turn around and want the same damn thing.
 
Pornography is an actual addiction that can cause real harm. It is a drug that alters your brain chemistry when you consume it, and it is clearly one that some people spend hours on. And it can easily destroy relationships through creating unrealistic expectations and encouraging infidelity. Just because Kiwi Farms believes everyone who admits to liking sexy women is a porn addict does not mean porn addiction is not a real thing, any more than a Baptist preacher saying anyone who drinks beer with their dinner makes you an alcoholic means alcoholism is not real. Porn is like any drug and you need to use it responsibly.

I believe Kiwi Farms is obsessed with porn addiction because of the very real tendency for trannies on the internet to be porn addicts. A lot of trannies use porn star-sounding names for instance and often claim to be having "real female orgasms" and other obsessions that clearly derive from watching too much porn. Ftm trannies too boast about their yaoi consumption, have names that sound like teens from borderline pornographic YA novels, and obsess over gay sex. Kiwi Farms also always needs the moral high ground and calling someone a porn addict (which according to them is one step from being a troon or a pedophile) is a way to win arguments.

To be fair, when someone uses words like "encourages" or "unrealistic expectations" it just sounds like old GamerGate era BuzzFeed articles and Tropes vs. Women shit.

You aren't gonna be able to use media effects arguments to convince people who've lived through both Jack Thompson and GamerGate.

As for the drug thing, I really don't like that framing, as it could be used to justify giving the DEA power over the Internet. Imagina a digital War on Drugs. Not saying addiction doesn't exist, as anything that leads to a dopamine hit can be addictive, I just don't think calling it a drug on par with hard chemicals is helpful at all and just serves to give the government more power.
 
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To be fair, when someone uses words like "encourages" or "unrealistic expectations" it just sounds like old GamerGate era BuzzFeed articles and Tropes vs. Women shit.

You aren't gonna be able to use media effects arguments to convince people who've lived through both Jack Thompson and GamerGate.

As for the drug thing, I really don't like that framing, as it could be used to justify giving the DEA power over the Internet. Imagina a digital War on Drugs. Not saying addiction doesn't exist, as anything that leads to a dopamine hit can be addictive, I just don't think calling it a drug on par with hard chemicals is helpful at all and just serves to give the government more power.
IMHO, the whole question of porn addiction and all that jazz over the internet can very simply be summed up with the fact that a few years ago we were all making fun of Tumblrites self diagnosing themselves with DID and PTSD, making fun of Tumblr blogs that claimed they could diagnose you with GAD just from ask blogs

Yet now, we’re doing the same thing with porn addiction, where we think we can diagnose someone as addicted based off of nothing but what they do on the internet, a place where people can lie, exaggerate, leave out context and information, etc.

I’m not saying porn addiction isn’t real, but it’s the jazzy new thing to armchair diagnose people with, just like when people were armchair diagnosing everyone with depression.

I genuinely see the two as no different.
 
I don't really like Josh, but you have to admit his situation is really sad. He's sacrificed his reputation, his families reputation, money, and a normal life for essentially very little reward.
I would feel sorry for him if he wasn't such a smug, fat, dislikeable, cowardly, two-faced cunt.
If he didn't do what he is doing, someone else will.

he sold his website out to the glowies, trannies and reddit fags so he deserves it.
Every thread is lefty talking points, government cock sucking and agreeing with Current-Thing.
 
No need to feel sorry. He's been compensated monetarily for his troubles, was able to bum it around Europe for 10 years, and complains he makes so much money he has to pay taxes. (Which he could sell his trove of silver coins, guns, and munitions to pay down, but that's another story.)
 
Yet now, we’re doing the same thing with porn addiction, where we think we can diagnose someone as addicted based off of nothing but what they do on the internet, a place where people can lie, exaggerate, leave out context and information, etc.
another thing leading to the rise of "porn addiction" accusations is that both simpping and thottery are a lot more normalized, a decade ago it was a lot rarer to have women showing clevage or ass online outside of porn. but kiwifarms being more of a femcel site has lead them to accuse any man of having a porn addiction because to women even looking at a photo of a woman with cleveage or ass is porn. And therefore porn is everywhere now and it has to be because of the men.

Its ironic too considering women porn, aka books are everywhere now. they proudly are addicted to romance novels and literally woman porn is on fucking HBO Max, with that gay hockey show. At least people are willing to call it out now. You need to upload your drivers license to watch porn on a porn site, but can watch gay sex scenes on hbo with no check needed. And every erotica site doesn't need a drivers license either, and studies show its mainly women addicted to AI chatbots. Its insane how much we pander to these cunts
 
another thing leading to the rise of "porn addiction" accusations is that both simpping and thottery are a lot more normalized, a decade ago it was a lot rarer to have women showing clevage or ass online outside of porn. but kiwifarms being more of a femcel site has lead them to accuse any man of having a porn addiction because to women even looking at a photo of a woman with cleveage or ass is porn. And therefore porn is everywhere now and it has to be because of the men.

Its ironic too considering women porn, aka books are everywhere now. they proudly are addicted to romance novels and literally woman porn is on fucking HBO Max, with that gay hockey show. At least people are willing to call it out now. You need to upload your drivers license to watch porn on a porn site, but can watch gay sex scenes on hbo with no check needed. And every erotica site doesn't need a drivers license either, and studies show its mainly women addicted to AI chatbots. Its insane how much we pander to these cunts

Probably because much of the current advocacy against porn is driven by feminist works form Dworkin and MacKinnon. It's mostly feminism that is driving it, though religion does factor in.

Because of this, only things aimed at men seem to be attacked, because women are seen as pretty little angels who can do no wrong.
 
Probably because much of the current advocacy against porn is driven by feminist works form Dworkin and MacKinnon. It's mostly feminism that is driving it, though religion does factor in.

Because of this, only things aimed at men seem to be attacked, because women are seen as pretty little angels who can do no wrong.
Anyone that's old enough to remember the 1980's and the 1990's probably remember the same group of moralfags that went after Gangster Rap music and video games.

You did had some conservatives and religious leaders that objected to Gangster Rap and violence in video games but most of the moralfagging against these two things came mostly from what I like to call the Boomer Left.

Back in the 1980's and in the early-1990's, you had people like Al Gore that wanted to censor Gangster Rap because he claimed the music promoted crime and was a bad influence on children and how this music should not be seen legally protected speech. What came out of this in the end is the Parental Advisory label which is the current rating system to any music that has explicit lyrics and warns parents about the content found in a single or album.

Al Gore would move on to his next grift for the rest of the 1990's with video games where he claimed violent video games should be seen as an epidemic that should be outlawed. He would team up with Hilary Clinton and they used video games like Night Trap to moralfag their way in Congress about why video games like Night Trap somehow poses a danger to young women. Both Al Gore and Hillary Clinton would fail in their crusade against violent video games and what we got out of this is the ESRB rating system which was a win for the video game industry and a massive loss or moralfags like Al Gore and Hillary Clinton.

Which leads me to porn. Most of the anti-porn rhetoric comes mostly from feminists that want to turn America to be as cucked as the UK where they want laws in place that gives women an amount of absurd power to screw over men. You do have some religious voices that object to porn but most of the anti-porn talking points that you do see comes from feminists that champion stupid shit like no-fault divorce and promote debunked nonsense like the claim men earn more than women for their paycheck.

It's also for the same reasons why Western feminists attack countries like Japan because counties like Japan have not drank the feminist Kool-Aid that would lead to their destruction of their countries as they know them; Japan still refuses to let women keep their family surname when married where they must adopt the man's surname, abortion while legal is still restricted in a lot of ways in Japan, and there's also the fact that Japan is not committing cultural suicide where they refuse to import a bunch of sub-80 IQ migrants into their country which pissed off a lot of Western feminists because Japan doesn't want unchecked immigration (because for some weird reason most Western feminists want to import barbaric third-world cultures from countries that can be classified as objectivity misogynist where said misogynist cultures come from the Middle East and Africa).

If you undo over 50 years worth of feminist legalization in America then watch most of the anti-porn talking points disappear overnight when feminists realize they don't have any power in America anymore. Which is happening right now where some states in America now want to require the mother to provide a DNA test to ensure any kids they give birth to truly belongs to the biological father and some states want to do away with no-fault divorce now.

Porn is a vice, can't argue with this. But the big reason why most feminists object to porn isn't because of the well being of women in the porn industry, it's because women instinctively hate competition and they can't stand men looking at the pretty women found in porn over the ugly landwhales that no one really wants. Women generally do not like competition and they will do what they can to eliminate the competition so they can have the man for themselves.
 
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Anyone that's old enough to remember the 1980's and the 1990's probably remember the same group of moralfags that went after Gangster Rap music and video games.

You did had some conservatives and religious leaders that objected to Gangster Rap and violence in video games but most of the moralfagging against these two things came mostly from what I like to call the Boomer Left.

Back in the 1980's and in the early-1990's, you had people like Al Gore that wanted to censor Gangster Rap because he claimed the music promoted crime and was a bad influence on children and how this music should not be seen legally protected speech. What came out of this in the end is the Parental Advisory label which is the current rating system to any music that has explicit lyrics and warns parents about the content found in a single or album.

Al Gore would move on to his next grift for the rest of the 1990's with video games where he claimed violent video games should be seen as an epidemic that should be outlawed. He would team up with Hilary Clinton and they used video games like Night Trap to moralfag their way in Congress about why video games like Night Trap somehow poses a danger to young women. Both Al Gore and Hillary Clinton would fail in their crusade against violent video games and what we got out of this is the ESRB rating system which was a win for the video game industry and a massive loss or moralfags like Al Gore and Hillary Clinton.

Which leads me to porn. Most of the anti-porn rhetoric comes mostly from feminists that want to turn America to be as cucked as the UK where they want laws in place that gives women an amount of absurd power to screw over men. You do have some religious voices that object to porn but most of the anti-porn talking points that you do see comes from feminists that champion stupid shit like no-fault divorce and promote debunked nonsense like the claim men earn more than women for their paycheck.

It's also for the same reasons why Western feminists attack countries like Japan because counties like Japan have not drank the feminist Kool-Aid that would lead to their destruction of their countries as they know them; Japan still refuses to let women keep their family surname when married where they must adopt the man's surname, abortion while legal is still restricted in a lot of ways in Japan, and there's also the fact that Japan is not committing cultural suicide where they refuse to import a bunch of sub-80 IQ migrants into their country which pissed off a lot of Western feminists because Japan doesn't want unchecked immigration (because for some weird reason most Western feminists want to import barbaric third-world cultures from countries that can be classified as objectivity misogynist where said misogynist cultures come from the Middle East and Africa).

If you undo over 50 years worth of feminist legalization in America then watch most of the anti-porn talking points disappear overnight when feminists realize they don't have any power in America anymore. Which is happening right now where some states in America now want to require the mother to provide a DNA test to ensure any kids they give birth to truly belongs to the biological father and some states want to do away with no-fault divorce now.

Porn is a vice, can't argue with this. But the big reason why most feminists object to porn isn't because of the well being of women in the porn industry, it's because women instinctively hate competition and they can't stand men looking at the pretty women found in porn over the ugly landwhales that no one really wants. Women generally do not like competition and they will do what they can to eliminate the competition so they can have the man for themselves.

They hate Japan because they refuse to bow down to the kind of censorious bullshit that Anita Sarkeesian and the like pushed.

That is why they needed to have Sony back in 2018 and now VISA/MasterCard force censorship from the top down.

Which is ironic because the Broomstick Farms seems to love credit card censorship when it hits anime, but not when Jersh himself gets blacklisted. Also, it's not just lolicon that gets banned. The list of prohibited things has actually grown to hit furries as well, so the people saying "GOOD" to DLSite getting hit are now having a reckoning.

Same people also forget that payment processors were part of the reason right-wing sites were often choked off. Financial censorship swings both ways. Kiwi Farms was probably one of the first ever victims of Operation Choke Point.

It just shows that the censorship systems they put in place to fight adult content can also be used to go after other things, and in fact have been weaponized for political gain. So Kiwi Farms ought to stop celebrating when VISA/MasterCard shuts down some otaku smut site.
 
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Anyone that's old enough to remember the 1980's and the 1990's
I actually do remember the 80s and 90s.
Back in the 1980's and in the early-1990's, you had people like Al Gore that wanted to censor Gangster Rap
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1Prince"Darling Nikki"Sex/masturbation
2Sheena Easton"Sugar Walls"Sex
3Judas Priest"Eat Me Alive"Sex/violence
4Vanity"Strap On 'Robbie Baby'"Sex
5Mötley Crüe"Bastard"Violence/language
6AC/DC"Let Me Put My Love into You"Sex
7Twisted Sister"We're Not Gonna Take It"Violence
8Madonna"Dress You Up"Sex
9W.A.S.P."Animal (Fuck Like a Beast)"Sex/language/violence
10Def Leppard"High 'n' Dry (Saturday Night)"Drug and alcohol use
11Mercyful Fate"Into the Coven"Occult
12Black Sabbath"Trashed"Drug and alcohol use
13Mary Jane Girls"In My House"Sex
14Venom"Possessed"Occult
15Cyndi Lauper"She Bop"Sex/masturbation
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Lol at the fact that Prince takes pole position and second place on that. However, zero Gangsta Rap. Back then (1985) Straight Outta Compton hadn't been released, nor Ice T's Cop Killer, so it was still men dressed as women, usually playing Heavy Metal, but a notable mention to Lauper for her ode to smacking the pony.

A bit about Zappa's (MKULTRA styled record producer) testimony and statements around the affair...

"During his statement, musician and producer Frank Zappa asserted that "the PMRC proposal is an ill-conceived piece of nonsense which fails to deliver any real benefits to children, infringes the civil liberties of people who are not children, and promises to keep the courts busy for years dealing with the interpretational and enforcemental problems inherent in the proposal's design."

He went on to state his suspicion that the hearings were a front for H.R. 2911, a proposed blank tape tax: "The major record labels need to have H.R. 2911 whiz through a few committees before anybody smells a rat. One of them is chaired by Senator Thurmond. Is it a coincidence that Mrs. Thurmond is affiliated with the PMRC?" Zappa had earlier stated about the Senate's agreement to hold a hearing on the matter that "A couple of blowjobs here and there and Bingo!—you get a hearing."

nfn: Frank used to encourage his kids to shower with Frank's house guests.... to conserve water.
 
Porn is a vice, can't argue with this. But the big reason why most feminists object to porn isn't because of the well being of women in the porn industry, it's because women instinctively hate competition and they can't stand men looking at the pretty women found in porn over the ugly landwhales that no one really wants. Women generally do not like competition and they will do what they can to eliminate the competition so they can have the man for themselves.
There's also no denying that there are feminists who understandably object to prostitution, regardless of the gender of the people it involves.
Also, that ugly women thing you said reminded me of:
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Should also note the Josh glazers in the replies (we do not have this dickrider problem with Ken).
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Gee, what could possibly go wrong with this "new" system, even considering that dickhead chomo David Hoffman and his cronies potentially exploiting it?
 
a decade ago it was a lot rarer to have women showing clevage or ass online outside of porn.
Gotta disagree with you there. A decade ago we had Nicki Minaj, Shakira, we had Lady Gaga in Love Game, we had Miley Cyrus. We had the job title of “online model” where girls would post themselves looking sexy on MySpace and get rated top profile for it. Have you ever heard of Amor Hilton? Melissa Marie Green? This isn’t a new thing at all.

Rather what I think has happened is a rise of it becoming unacceptable. Perhaps society got tired of it and when society gets tired of something we, of course, have to make it exile worthy behavior.
 
Gotta disagree with you there. A decade ago we had Nicki Minaj, Shakira, we had Lady Gaga in Love Game, we had Miley Cyrus. We had the job title of “online model” where girls would post themselves looking sexy on MySpace and get rated top profile for it. Have you ever heard of Amor Hilton? Melissa Marie Green? This isn’t a new thing at all.

Rather what I think has happened is a rise of it becoming unacceptable. Perhaps society got tired of it and when society gets tired of something we, of course, have to make it exile worthy behavior.
And Kyle Adam Carrozza wonders why he got blacklisted from the animation industry.
 
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I dont really think banning porn would achieve much. As I think its symptom of how modern culture has decayed into hedonism, materialism, and generally superficial nonsense.

And yeah it is kinda fucked up how our culture and society is incentivezed to do something which may likely harm them in the long run. Its absolutely fucking tragic that their seems to be more and more men and women who say being a literal prostitute or whore is the highlight of their life. Its so sad, its really pathetic.
 
Frank used to encourage his kids to shower with Frank's house guests
and Terry A Davis and Alan Turing were both self admited child molestors. It doesn't take an attraction to children to realize the PMRC was bullshit. the fact that they were mainly going over the most tame music while niggers were turning cities into warzones shows you how fucked their priorities were. Especially when the crime bills of the 90s showed you can easily fix these problems if you actually give a fuck instead of trying to censor Murphy Brown.

Every politican involved in the PMRC has openly admitted to hating white people at this point, so you can't even argue that they're true believers. They would rather live among haitians or somalians than any of the whites of america!
Gotta disagree with you there. A decade ago we had Nicki Minaj, Shakira, we had Lady Gaga in Love Game, we had Miley Cyrus. We had the job title of “online model” where girls would post themselves looking sexy on MySpace and get rated top profile for it. Have you ever heard of Amor Hilton? Melissa Marie Green? This isn’t a new thing at all.

Rather what I think has happened is a rise of it becoming unacceptable. Perhaps society got tired of it and when society gets tired of something we, of course, have to make it exile worthy behavior.
none of the singers you mentioned were showing off as much as "boobie streamers" on twitch are. plus every chick on tiktok or instagram is showing thirst traps. while online models do exist, the normalization of FYPs means its a lot more normal to be scrolling and come across some hot chick in a way you rarely used to on say reddit unless you were already subscribed to NSFW pages. This isn't even a like thing to argue, numerous videos mention how few clicks it takes to get to NSFW content on youtube
 
I dont really think banning porn would achieve much. As I think its symptom of how modern culture has decayed into hedonism, materialism, and generally superficial nonsense.

And yeah it is kinda fucked up how our culture and society is incentivezed to do something which may likely harm them in the long run. Its absolutely fucking tragic that their seems to be more and more men and women who say being a literal prostitute or whore is the highlight of their life. Its so sad, its really pathetic.
Case and point, take China as an example. Porn is illegal in China but this hasn't really stopped China from seeing their own birth decline crisis where Chinese people are now having less kids which means China is now having an aging crisis. What about South Korea where technically that country is a democracy but porn is also illegal? You see the same thing, in South Korea there are less people there having kids there despite porn being outlawed there too. This shows me that the absence of porn doesn't mean you'll get stable populations where people get married off and have kids; because other factors can and do come into play for why a population declines in the first place.

Gee whiz, it's almost like there are other factors can contribute to a population decline and porn is not the absolute sole cause for why population declines happen in the first place (China ruined their own people with that now infamous one child policy and South Korea screwed itself with their toxic globalist work culture; porn being illegal in these two countries didn't prevent these two countries from having an aging crisis and now these two countries are seeing their native populations starting to decline).

This reminds me of a bullshit British documentary called 'No Sex Please, We're Japanese' which back in the early-2010's the world was starting to pay attention to Japan's birth decline and some journalists wanted to know why Japan was having an aging crisis. So some Britbongs went to Japan to learn about this and the bullshit conclusion they came to is that they blamed anime and video games for why Japan is having less kids. This documentary was rightfully torn to shreds because the Britbongs at the time wanted to find an easy scapegoat so they blamed Japan's pop culture but put little emphasis on Japan's toxic culture and the globalist policies being pushed by the world's elites that screwed over Japan's population in the first place. 'No Sex Please, We're Japanese' is a very disingenuous and a very dishonest documentary that was made by midwits for midwits that arrogantly think they know everything about Japan.

It's been over a decade since the UK published 'No Sex Please, We're Japanese' and the UK is now suffering an aging crisis around a decade later since that documentary about Japan was published. The UK is currently seeing an aging crisis with their native white population and guess what, anime isn't that big in the UK compared to Japan and in some Western countries. So what gives? Obviously anime isn't that big in the UK but their white population is suffering an aging crisis now. So you can't blame anime for why the UK is going through the exact same thing that Japan is going through. The same globalist policies that have hurt Japan is hurting the UK too and blaming consumer pop culture media for why a population is declining is laughably dishonest; because blaming anime, video games, or porn while you still refuse to acknowledge the elephant in the room (in this case the elephant in the room is globalism) makes you look like a dishonest retard.

Retarded midwits confuse the symptoms for the cause, they focus too much on the forest that they forget the forest is made of trees. It's easy to blame anime or video games or porn when you most likely also contribute to the things that actually damage the world (like if you're still dumb enough to keep voting for politicians that will continue the globalist scam while being against your best interests and the only reason why you still vote for these grifters into power is because they tell you the things you want to hear because the elites know you're too stupid to think for yourself).
 
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