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Fair enough but a sperg I can ignore, grand-standing hypocrits and sadwank dogpilers are the cancer of the world.

I hope ofcom censors the farms and null chokes on cheese.

To be fair, SSj was absolutely both. He’d constantly soapbox about how oh so evil minorities are whilst saying the most evil out of pocket shit, he’d also join in on dogpiles

This isn’t some victim being attacked, this is a rabid dog being cannibalized by other rabid dogs. They eat their own n’ shit.

I don’t want the farms to be censored, I just want them to come to their senses. I won’t deny the fact that the internet would probably benefit greatly from it disappearing though. It’s bleeding into the mainstream, you have these shady YouTubers who claim to not be affiliated with the farms when it’s obvious they are, sort of peddling it to their fans under the guise of “It’s just a gossip site! That’s it!”

 

[Obscenity2022]

The Farmers did what they usually do; instantly blew a retarded question way out of proportion, seethed, made a thread calling him out - an excuse to signal the cavalry, and dogpiled him.

The same tactic has been used to silence a couple of posters who had high post counts and who had contributed to many threads. This seems to be the way to ban people who I have to assume are on a list or watched by Null.

Anyone who has been on the internet longer than they dare admit will have seen this same process/tactic employed by invading members to a forum. It happened to every gaming forum, one by one, until they were taken over, chased off or banned the regulars, forcing others who weren't banned into silence, then inevitably shuttering the forum.

mass debates really is just 15 minutes of hate. "let us dogpile you and then send you off" and outside of a handful of examples it usual works.

slav power post that probably got him in trouble with the /r/shitkiwifarmssays crowd, nice to know it took 6 months for Null to agree and then ban him



this was explicitly said in a thread where multiple users were banned site wide for complaining about the mods over on BP btw

edit:image fix

 

[Kiwi Pot Pie]

SSJ was banned because of a discussion over a 13 year old victim of rape. He asked a question whether she was a slut or if the guy did actually rape her.

The Farmers did what they usually do; instantly blew a retarded question way out of proportion, seethed, made a thread calling him out - an excuse to signal the cavalry, and dogpiled him.

The same tactic has been used to silence a couple of posters who had high post counts and who had contributed to many threads. This seems to be the way to ban people who I have to assume are on a list or watched by Null.

The "Mass Debates" board might as well just be called the "struggle session" board. So much for free speech when SSJNess cannot post his extremist view on a website full of extremism!

Does Kiwi Farms still forbid infighting? How does having a designated board for making call out threads on users you dislike not constitute infighting?

 

[caporchief]

I'm not going to mourn a pedo but I think letting them just continually hang themselves is better than banning them after a Maoist show trial. Watching @BittersweetSymphony get heckled in every thread provides way more entertainment, yet he is permitted to give his say. It's a more human and natural state of affairs.

I want to call the thread a struggle session, because that's exactly what it was. But that raises the question of whether all of Kiwifarms is just hundreds of struggle sessions.

 

[Obscenity2022]

I want to call the thread a struggle session, because that's exactly what it was. But that raises the question of whether all of Kiwifarms is just hundreds of struggle sessions.

in the old days it wasn't because they used to be really good about backing up their shit. now its just "you said Anisa is attractive? well she looks like a child to me therefore you are a pedo. ban"

like if you go down the list of mass debate call outs a huge chunk of them is arguing in bad faith

 

[caporchief]

My prediction Null would crack down on the Charlie Kirk stuff was totally off base, but I really do think there's presently a massive staff uprising behind the scenes.

See this post

This post may have contributed in the recent Null meltdown. His staff no longer believes in him. Null's recent crashout specifically referenced the mods on the BP, remember. Whoever mentioned HHH being the heir presumptive to the CWCiki forums (chosen by both its admin and a vote by its userbase) was tremendously insightful. Given who HHH is to a lot of the forum (negative and positive), there's a real "legitimate heir denied his rightful throne" effect going on behind the scenes. HHH rejected the adminship, true, but that was in 2012, the height of the Obama era. What a lot of people in the last pages have called the golden age of the internet.

Given how HHH spends his time nowadays, do you think he'd turn this position down now? Given how Twitter's acquisition by Elon Musk has changed the internet so profoundly, do you think he's regretting his decision now? I wonder if he's kicking himself in retrospect for having so flagrantly abandoned his duty. He could have been the admin of Kiwifarms. He could have been Null. Instead, who is he? A despised figure who Null only grudgingly tolerates.

HHH, do you regret it?

 

[ipreferpickles]

Given how HHH spends his time nowadays, do you think he'd turn this position down now? Given how Twitter's acquisition by Elon Musk has changed the internet so profoundly, do you think he's regretting his decision now? I wonder if he's kicking himself in retrospect for having so flagrantly abandoned his duty. He could have been the admin of Kiwifarms. He could have been Null. Instead, who is he? A despised figure who Null only grudgingly tolerates.

I don't know if he'd be willing to be it now, but I just made a post in the Null thread where HHH and other posters in the TES thread complain about how Null has allowed the site to fall apart and cater to Trump voters now. Almost every user not actively involved with A&H is getting fed up with them and their constant Trump praise, to the point that users have been sitebanned for going against Trump in the wrong threads. It's funny how Null despises A&H but he's the only mod who's willing to tolerate them.

 

[caporchief]

I don't know if he'd be willing to be it now, but I just made a post in the Null thread where HHH and other posters in the TES thread complain about how Null has allowed the site to fall apart and cater to Trump voters now. Almost every user not actively involved with A&H is getting fed up with them and their constant Trump praise, to the point that users have been sitebanned for going against Trump in the wrong threads. It's funny how Null despises A&H but he's the only mod who's willing to tolerate them.

A&H has a new mod: notorietus, who has banned a handful of posters (mostly leftwing/bait posters) from the USPG2 thread recently. All else aside, he is pretty transparent:

From what I've heard the position of A&H moderator is cursed, and most who hold it eventually go insane. I guess we'll wait and see what happens to the newest staff member?

Here's some posts from recently banned High Prophet of Truth's profile page. Most are from 2021, prior to his sudden reemergence.

First, OF's very own @Empresa:

?

Seemed he was apparently a Groyper? Hard to tell if this is sarcasm or not.


And here is the ban reason, given by the very person who banned him: Null himself.


The irony is that the guy was basically no different from Dyn, who IIRC is Null's best friend in real life. Dyn is/was always taking the piss out of the userbase. HPOT's posts were mostly pointing out that left-leaning irony-heavy humor-driven leftist online spaces were laughing at CK's death. No different than what Dyn does regularly.

I could see a split in the future, where a plurality (or majority) of KF creates their own forum like what happened with Spacebattles and NeoGAF. I think most of BP and the pre-2020 join date mostly left-leaning side of KF are (not-so-)quietly fed up with Null and would move to a different site given the opportunity, especially with the present sociopolitical climate in the US and Null's open partisanship on Twitter and his own forum.

Null's present meltdowns are a consequence of him realizing how insecure his position is, and also how little his values correspond to his present userbase or the current US administration.

 

[ipreferpickles]

First, OF's very own @Empresa:

Back in 2020, The High Prophet of Truth and a number of other users made a series of DM chains to discuss the aftermath of Trump's loss after Null allowed HHH and a number of other users to raid the US Politics thread in an effort to drive A&H members off the site, and they explicitly said to not invite HHH into them. These were leaked and a bunch of drama ensued, similar to what's going on now, where a ton of users told Null to delete A&H, ban every poster there and even told him to dox the mods in charge of A&H and ban them too. It got so bad it's arguably what got this place in the limelight to begin with, since a lot of the earliest posters on here were people who were sick of the constant infighting and Null sperging out. I'm pretty sure what Empresa is posting there is something Prophet said in response to why he made one of the DM chains.

Seemed he was apparently a Groyper? Hard to tell if this is sarcasm or not.

It's making fun of Prophet. I don't think Prophet was a Groyper, the only mention he gave of Fuentes was stuff like this:

I do think it's a sign of what KF has turned into that someone coming back after a long time is instantly treated like a hacked account just because they hurt too many feelings.

 

[ipreferpickles]

From what I've heard the position of A&H moderator is cursed, and most who hold it eventually go insane. I guess we'll wait and see what happens to the newest staff member?

They don't go crazy, that's just something Null says because he hates A&H. Things have probably changed since 2019-2020, but I remember a former mod named It's HK-47 even said A&H had the lowest report rate of any board. What ends up happening is they quit pretty quickly and Null has to find a new one, which annoys him. The current roster of mods would probably delete the entire Thunderdome if they had the chance.

 

[Fulgur Manifestation]

I'm more tired of the users shitflinging puritanical takes like the one I found yesterday to the point of weirdness. I'd wager a bet a good amount of them are doing it to Reddit it up and to kiss ass with everyone and Null himself to gain internet stickers.

Speaking of which why is there so many users who care about stickers so much? I remember snailslime getting his sticker privilege revoked because of his constant dumb reacts. It literally affects no one except your profile would say you have too much negrates and people shouldn't care at all, but since they enabled that shit, now everyone does. If anything those who should be banned would be those whining about stickers a lot.

 

[Obscenity2022]

Given how HHH spends his time nowadays, do you think he'd turn this position down now?

HHH probably has a real life. Null has said for years now that the site can't survive without a whole bunch of shit, that and the doxxing and DFK shit means unless you had no life or options you'd have abandoned the site years ago. the swing on doxing and sanitization of the internet the last 2 years means it probably isn't as hard to run kiwifarms but as it stands its still a website that can't have a payment processor. and would just be a moneysink for a hilariously small userbase. like why spend tens of thousands on a website that has essentially the same function as the cringeanarchy subreddit in 2019 did with roughly the same amount of user activity?

I don't know if he'd be willing to be it now, but I just made a post in the Null thread where HHH and other posters in the TES thread complain about how Null has allowed the site to fall apart and cater to Trump voters now. Almost every user not actively involved with A&H is getting fed up with them and their constant Trump praise, to the point that users have been sitebanned for going against Trump in the wrong threads. It's funny how Null despises A&H but he's the only mod who's willing to tolerate them.

it really is obnoxious now too, Joseph Stalin's boomer meme roundup is widely praised and their stupid Zorro jokes are a bit hit over there. If you pay attention long enough most of them outside of Welper admit to being over 40 and just in how they can't let shit go like the burger suit meme or their references to democrat underground or WTO protests or anything else makes you wonder if they even give a fuck about the site outside of lolcows, like most of the kiwifarms userbase right before #dropkiwifarms was obviously born in the 90s mostly late 90s which is why guys like Ralph and Rekieta and Dick Masterson were huge beloved members back in 2019 and if you look back at threads from back then you could see people autistically talking about anime for hundreds of pages.

If i were them, i'd honestly just have a DM chain instead. as that one post from when they got banned showed, most of the userbase fucking hates them and their posts are never insightful.

its rather telling of kiwifarms that guys older than the vice president make about a fifth of the posts in any given week now. why do i need some boomer's take on anything trump related when fox news and facebook exists?

I think most of BP and the pre-2020 join date mostly left-leaning side of KF are (not-so-)quietly fed up with Null and would move to a different site given the opportunity

why? BP is given immunity in their bans and splinter sites always fail because the "normie" userbase never crosses over. its literally why reddit and youtube knockoffs always fail. its the equivilent of the reason 3rd parties fail. you never are able to take advantage of creatures of habit. This isn't even a new phenom considering Rules for Radicals says to subvert and infiltrate groups for this exact reason. Why do you think churches especially protestant ones are now suddenly preaching about being anti-ice and giving billions to immigrants and then stopping it once it goes to white immigrants? its because they've been subverted but most people don't leave a church once something happens.

I do think it's a sign of what KF has turned into that someone coming back after a long time is instantly treated like a hacked account just because they hurt too many feelings.

the site's vibes changed so hard. plenty of people would troll like Dyn, but now anyone not sincerly worshipping god emperor trump is attacked. Look how hard USPG2 went after anyone whining about epstein. 2 years ago you could admit to liking any anime and they had a better grasp on not believing everything fox news says. now look what happens.

I'm more tired of the users shitflinging puritanical takes like the one I found yesterday to the point of weirdness. I'd wager a bet a good amount of them are doing it to Reddit it up and to kiss ass with everyone and Null himself to gain internet stickers.

Speaking of which why is there so many users who care about stickers so much? I remember snailslime getting his sticker privilege revoked because of his constant dumb reacts. It literally affects no one except your profile would say you have too much negrates and people shouldn't care at all, but since they enabled that shit, now everyone does. If anything those who should be banned would be those whining about stickers a lot.

its feedback

 

[Kiwismarms]

I'm not going to mourn a pedo

He isn't a pedo, just a retard with hot takes. The label 'pedo' on the farms is the yellow star of david, it's how they tag a poster to be dog piled and banned.

What a lot of people in the last pages have called the golden age of the internet.

The golden age of the internet was pre-smart phone (pre2004) anyone thinking otherwise can have their opinion discarded for not being old enough to remember the wild-wild west that was the internet.

like if you go down the list of mass debate call outs a huge chunk of them is arguing in bad faith

Exactly this. There is no debate. A poster says something, they are demanded to explain their words, while the faggots rally and dog-pile while taking words out of context, ignore reality and invent shit that was never said to make the original comment seem worse.

There was one poster who had thousands of posts, made a comment about things they had observed (andmany had observed in real life) but the dog pile began, the comment was taken out of context and they were ran off the board under threat of dox and their employer told that they were a pedo. Take the online, forum chat away and that's a threat that can ruin someones real life because some online losers took words out of context and ignored reality.
But hey, they certainly aren't like those evil cancelling lefties and emotional trannies...

 

[Obscenity2022]

the retards on USPG2 are so sure a congressman who has never gotten under 3/4ths of the vote in a primary is going to get kicked out that some are literally betting their account on it. meaning this nigga has about 7 months before he doxxes himself and vanishes.

Mind you the man trump endorsed to primary this fucker out hasn't even submitting paperwork and trumps congressional endorsements have almost had an opposite effect in many primary races such as Kari Lake's or Blake Masters or Vivek's

This 7+ year old account belives that a guy who had millions poured into his GOP rivals because of his anti-zionist stance in the last 5 elections will not even hit 30% of the primary vote. All because Trump endorsed a guy. the ADL was trying to kick this guy out way back in 2014, but Sammich believes that somehow every republican voter in this district only now realized how libertarian this guy is despite anyone that wasn't a drug addicted retard having seen his stance in hit pieces and negative campaign ads the last 10 years.

The rest of the USPG2 crew must be high fiving in DM chats right now considering their views on drug addicted losers like Sammich. with JB, WH99 and CTR openly saying they want Sammich dead.

Also why the fuck can so many users just accuse people of being pedos or being indian or just opening saying they should kill themselves when that shit usually leads to call outs everyelse on green reddit, even in the supporters threads. the watamelon stuff being a great example.

USPG2 is such a shitty thread for following politics that even the users admit they have to use fucking reddit to get the latest info. the place used to be where you got behind the scenes takes and breaking news. now lefties on reddit are picking up scoops faster

 

[thefrogninja]

Josh's users, many cringe 2025 join date users, mock him for his take on Destiny's lawsuit.

He complained that they were cheerleading every court filing by Pxie's lawyer as genius moves and that his users are mocking Destiny's rape as a child. Guess what, they kept doing it for MONTHS because he allowed it to happen despite "putting his foot down" and banning only a single user for it. Many people have mocked his take in the thread, but Josh will still sit on his hands and do nothing because he's feckless.

 

[TheCIAGlowsInTheDark]

SSJ was banned because of a discussion over a 13 year old victim of rape. He asked a question whether she was a slut or if the guy did actually rape her.

The Farmers did what they usually do; instantly blew a retarded question way out of proportion, seethed, made a thread calling him out - an excuse to signal the cavalry, and dogpiled him.

The same tactic has been used to silence a couple of posters who had high post counts and who had contributed to many threads. This seems to be the way to ban people who I have to assume are on a list or watched by Null.

Anyone who has been on the internet longer than they dare admit will have seen this same process/tactic employed by invading members to a forum. It happened to every gaming forum, one by one, until they were taken over, chased off or banned the regulars, forcing others who weren't banned into silence, then inevitably shuttering the forum.

With no hyperbole, drama, or wishful thinking from those who hate null and/or the farms, but this is the death spiral we're seeing in real time. Grab your popcorn and enjoy because the farms has maybe 12 months left. Maybe.

Kiwi Farms?

More like Pedo Farms if you ask me.

 

[Boobie Bomb]

the retards on USPG2 are so sure a congressman who has never gotten under 3/4ths of the vote in a primary is going to get kicked out that some are literally betting their account on it. meaning this nigga has about 7 months before he doxxes himself and vanishes.

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Mind you the man trump endorsed to primary this fucker out hasn't even submitting paperwork and trumps congressional endorsements have almost had an opposite effect in many primary races such as Kari Lake's or Blake Masters or Vivek's

This 7+ year old account belives that a guy who had millions poured into his GOP rivals because of his anti-zionist stance in the last 5 elections will not even hit 30% of the primary vote. All because Trump endorsed a guy. the ADL was trying to kick this guy out way back in 2014, but Sammich believes that somehow every republican voter in this district only now realized how libertarian this guy is despite anyone that wasn't a drug addicted retard having seen his stance in hit pieces and negative campaign ads the last 10 years.

The rest of the USPG2 crew must be high fiving in DM chats right now considering their views on drug addicted losers like Sammich. with JB, WH99 and CTR openly saying they want Sammich dead.

Also why the fuck can so many users just accuse people of being pedos or being indian or just opening saying they should kill themselves when that shit usually leads to call outs everyelse on green reddit, even in the supporters threads. the watamelon stuff being a great example.

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USPG2 is such a shitty thread for following politics that even the users admit they have to use fucking reddit to get the latest info. the place used to be where you got behind the scenes takes and breaking news. now lefties on reddit are picking up scoops faster

That sounds awfully familiar. I wonder if Sammich knows about David Duke?

 

[ipreferpickles]

SSJ was banned because of a discussion over a 13 year old victim of rape. He asked a question whether she was a slut or if the guy did actually rape her.

The Farmers did what they usually do; instantly blew a retarded question way out of proportion, seethed, made a thread calling him out - an excuse to signal the cavalry, and dogpiled him.

The same tactic has been used to silence a couple of posters who had high post counts and who had contributed to many threads. This seems to be the way to ban people who I have to assume are on a list or watched by Null.

Anyone who has been on the internet longer than they dare admit will have seen this same process/tactic employed by invading members to a forum. It happened to every gaming forum, one by one, until they were taken over, chased off or banned the regulars, forcing others who weren't banned into silence, then inevitably shuttering the forum.

With no hyperbole, drama, or wishful thinking from those who hate null and/or the farms, but this is the death spiral we're seeing in real time. Grab your popcorn and enjoy because the farms has maybe 12 months left. Maybe.

Do you not think it's retarded that people are banned on a free speech forum?
They always seem to be banned for the boogie man of being a pedophile when the mods and site owner are pedophiles.

Fair enough but a sperg I can ignore, grand-standing hypocrits and sadwank dogpilers are the cancer of the world.

I hope ofcom censors the farms and null chokes on cheese.

Ness was a freakshow who should have been banned a long time ago. He even managed to get a thread on here from how hard he'd sperg out about stuff. I don't know what kept the mods from taking him off KF for so long.

 

[vlcmediaplayer]

Ness was a freakshow who should have been banned a long time ago. He even managed to get a thread on here from how hard he'd sperg out about stuff. I don't know what kept the mods from taking him off KF for so long.

He was seemingly kept around as a punching bag for others for a while, but it seems even Null got tired of that and banned him for good.

 

[Obscenity2022]

Null is literally reaped what he sowed on the pedo discource. how the fuck can you see how people act in mass debates and in the vtuber and lolicon threads and think you can pull off the "actually having sex with underage teenagers isn't something to mock" even if you're an admin. Null would have gotten a mass debate call out thread on that bullshit if people weren't scared of getting their accounts nuked,.

That sounds awfully familiar. I wonder if Sammich knows about David Duke?

i wasn't alive back then but i'm pretty sure 2/3rds of the country weren't admitting on polls to being WN, outside of pissing off trump (who hasn't in congress?) he hasn't really said or changed his views much since 2015, Sammich promises that being anti-jeff epstein is what will really screw over this guy, but he hasn't gotten under 2/3rds in the general or under 3/4ths in a primary and thats with AIPAC funding fuckers for years.

literally his most controversial stance outside of not being a trump lapdog is his views on israel which are as controversial now as being pro-gay marriage in 2014, plus as we saw from when George Clooney's dad tried to be a congressman, Kentucky doesn't really enjoy outsiders trying to fuck with their politics. Trump's congressional endorsement record is hilariously bad too, you can pretty much blame the 2022 midterms on him and the GOP not being able to coordinate shit back then. same with the failures of 2020 and 2018. And with the uphill battle that is Vivek, i doubt Trumpo will be able to spend a lot of the primary season trying to ruin this fucker's life, especially when the senate seat is also up for grabs and him and kirk endorsed different people.

Sammich is such a retarded drug addict he doesn't realize Trump failed to primary "enemies" 2 years ago as well.