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Joshua Conner Moon - Kiwi Farms Joshua Moon Megathread

Joshua Moon the owner of Kiwifarms
Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt said:
I may be autistic as shit but I am seeing the writing on thw wall. We are probably going to need two forums one for pure lolcow and the other for non-lolcow stuff. Why? Because OF is already closely associated with KF and it may end up being banned like KF.
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So how do you plan not to fall into the same thing Josh did?
 
thefrogninja said:
Josh claims that's a lie which may be true, but who knows. What's the incentive to lie about this? The account was up for maybe a quarter of a year now I'd be interested in knowing if people did get refunded and for how many months? If someone has been paying for 4 months and got all of that refunded then it's true he let it all sit.
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Okay so here is my issue. We know hes on the match list and permabanned from all banking. We saw this with NP2 shut down. Josh literally killed it. How exactly does he have a payment method for anything? What?
 
Fromtheevenblackerdepths said:
So how do you plan not to fall into the same thing Josh did?
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That's a particularly valid question. Here is Patreon's Policy. I have put in italics what I think appears to the most important part of the policy. Given that KF has almost been universally banned, I am sure that other revenue generating companies may have similar policies as well.

Bullying, harassment, and threats
To summarize: We don’t allow bullying or harassment because we want Patreon to feel like a safe place for our various communities. At the same time, we want people to be able to express themselves, be critical, and discuss controversial issues.

We recognize that discussing celebrities, media or other public figures can sometimes involve harsh criticism, and we believe that is an appropriate part of free debate. However, we draw the line when it comes to harassing private figures, or taking any action that might affect people’s physical safety, regardless of whether these people are private or public figures.
As much as we want you to be able to express yourself, we want all of our users to have the right to express their opinion without feeling intimidated. Even the most difficult conversations should take place in the most respectful way. Here is how we define these behaviors.
Bullying and harassment:
You cannot attempt to intimidate anyone, either directly or by using your influence over others. We treat real-life interactions more seriously than online interactions when analyzing whether a line has been crossed because it can be more threatening and lead to physical violence. When both sides engage in similar behavior, such as feuds between public figures, we are less likely to take action.
Threats:
Anyone on Patreon should be able to express their opinion in a way that doesn't threaten another person. In this respect, we take threats of violence very seriously. Any creator or patron threatening the well-being of an individual or group of people will be removed. This includes threatening behavior such as stalking or inciting others to commit violent acts.
If you are a victim of this behavior and feel that your personal safety is at risk, we suggest you contact your local law enforcement, in addition to reporting the behavior to us.
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This is why I initially proposed the 20,000 follower rule and the celebrity tier scale. It was based on this. The higher up you go on the scale, the more accustomed you are to being in the public eye and scrutinized. A thread made on somone like Justin Bieber(a worldwide celebrity) for example isn't the same on making a thread on a private figure (who may be a lolcow in their own right). Why? Because someone like Justin Bieber has earned his lumps and bumps when it comes to being a celebrity. People like him are "Kiwifarmed" (in a manner of speaking} everyday by National Enquirer, Hollywood Gossip, Perez Hilton and so forth and so on.

Here are a couple of things I have tossed around:
Keep this as a forum for discussing people of interest such as celebrities, lolcows, influential people and so forth as long as they are a public figure.

If there are more private people or traditional lolcows worth discussing we have a couple of options: We could break this off to have a separate forum and let that forum be our "Kiwifarms". Let's say we did this and had forum such and such. Onionfarms would be the one that we could put use to generate revenue whether is it from something like sales of Onionfarms related items, patreon, podcasts or whatever. The revenue generated supports everything. It goes without saying that we would have to place the Kiwifarms stuff in the other forum because I doubt this would pass the sniff test by Patreon's Trust and Safety Team. The drawback to this approach is that you weaken the forum splitting it into two separate ones.

Another option: Keep it all as one forum but have a special lolcow forum for these people that would afford privacy. This could be our secret forum. This is more risky because it is still connected to Onionfarms.

So yes, I would like to be proactive and figure out a plan with you guys while we are still ahead of the game.
 
Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt said:
Does he have a serbian bank account?
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As far as I understand it, having a bank account isn't an issue for Josh. The problem is that he's blacklisted by all of the payment processors, making it impossible for him to actually move cash to/from a bank account.
 
SIGSEGV said:
No.
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SchizoNetwork said:
yes, i'm so butthurt i think i may fart all over your face
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Oh yes...very good!....very sloppy and wet my dear....hmmmmm...is that a drop of nugget I see on the rim?...hmmmm.....let me.....let me just have a little taste before the sniff my darling.......hmmmmm....hmm..yes....that is a delicate bit of chocolate my dear....ah yes....let me guess...curry for dinner?....oh quite right I am....aren't I?....ok....time for sniff.....sssssnnnnnnniiiiiiiiffffffff.....hmmm...hhhmmmmm I see...yes....yes indeed as well curry......hmmm....that fragrance is quite noticeable....yes.....onion and garlic chutney I take it my dear?.....hmmmmm....yes quite.....

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Oh I was not expecting that...that little gust my dear....you caught me off guard...yes...so gentle it was though...hmmmm...let me taste this little one...just one small sniff.....sniff...ah....ssssssnnnnnniiiiiffffffffffff...and yet...so strong...yes...the odor....sniff sniff...hmmm....is that....sniff....hmmm....I can almost taste it my dear.....yes....just...sniff....a little whiff more if you please.....ssssssnnnnnniiiiiffffffffff...ah yes I have it now....yes quite....hhhhmmmm...delectable my dear.....quite exquisite yes.....I dare say...sniff....the most pungent one yet my dear....ssssnnnnniiiifffffffffffffffffffffff....yes....
 
Josh got mad and banned someone again.

Trovo Live / Tencent's Twitch competitor

Didn’t see this mentioned in the thread Kinda surprised they named it ‘Trovo’ and not ‘Tlive’ So Ralph moved from Dlive to Tlive. A better fit given the state of his show is ZZZlive. A streaming site dedicated to streams that will put you to sleep.
kiwifarms.net kiwifarms.net

As per usual, no one will call him out due to a fear of getting banned too. I also noticed that he removed most of his YouTube videos. I remember seeing the most recent mati streams at midnight. He's very frightened and scared currently. Expect more spergouts on the forums and in discord. He's in panic mode if he went and deleted so many videos just so save his youtube account that isn't even monetised.
 
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