nobodyworthwhile
Remarkable Onion
Depends on what aspects you're judging.KF specifically, dunno why anyone would argue it was ever good. One of better things with Clyde is he and most replies acknowledge that KF has always been shite and they were dunces for once believing otherwise, and there ain't no shame in admitting you used to be wrong.
For me, I was never big on the Null/management stuff and basically I never encountered him. I usually hung around the media/entertainment/off-topic stuff, and people there used to be sane.
Just for example there was an understanding that "just because there was a girl in it, doesn't mean its woke." I recall pointing out that a lot of shows from the 1980s that we all grew up with, had women, but nobody said Cheetara made Thundercats woke, or that Gadget made Rescue Rangers furry bait.
Last time I was on Kiwifarms a few months ago, they had gone full tard on this same issue. I saw somone specifically claiming that Rescue Rangers (which is from 1989, remember) was specifically an attempt to normalize sexual attraction to animals.
Like, for fucks sake this is one of the last topics I made while on KF. Notice that despite me specifically citing examples like "anime will make you troon out," they very quickly pivot to talking about religious texts, political screeds, or intentional propaganda. At the top of page four I call out what they're doing and immediately get accused of "strawmanning."
Meanwhile, just a few years ago I made a very similar topic with basically the same theme. And look at how different the response was, with Kiwis being a lot more reasonable. It's kind of eye-opening to see the very different takes.
EDIT: Man, reading through those... its kinda funny that in the first one, the only person who made the "propaganda" argument.... was SSJ_Ness. But then in the more recent version that wound up being the go-to argument. That tells you all you need to know.
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