I can confirm 10anon's latest screenshot post is in fact real. I keep close contact with this individual on a constant basis and tells me what's going on. This is 100% legit can someone tell null this or at least show him.
You should've talked to @The American Hedgehog before posting this...
espeon tells ternmerc he should ahve talked to Hedgehog first before posting
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 08:49 AM
"Ok so the guy there now is the editor of the cwcki and kiwi farms and works on lolcow
Hes one of the watchmen and has known Chris for years online"(edited)
notice Bella used the term watchmen
American Hedgehog who is a prolific poster on the CWC KF forum that he also a moderator for, has been all but silent since the news broke
@W.T. snacks do you have any info on The American Hedgehog?
connections to lolcow etc
because TAH has been at the front of all breaking Chris news and leaks for since
including Idea Guys
in fact i honestly believe he was a part of that group on the fringes
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 08:58 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if he worms his way in just to observe.
That's literally his whole MO
Documenting Chris.
So he probably knows a bunch of shit about a bunch of sagas, but only reveals stuff he wouldn't get questioned about personally knowing.
Which makes him no better than any of these fags, let's be honest.
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 08:59 AM
If TAH is also on lolcow, that in my mind that confirms he has in the discord with Bella(edited)
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:00 AM
Also keep in mind, they most likely poached Fiona off the CWCki discord.
Fuck for all we know TAH told Bella about her or some sick shit.
Doubtful, but I'll believe anything at this point.
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 09:00 AM
lol i think fiona was whoring herself out enough that we dont need someone to say they told Bella about her
I think Bella saw her and thought "oh uwu kawaii, now you are mine"
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:01 AM
True true.
Went ahead and made a gungann channel
The CWCki server user that helped Bella manipulate Fiona(edited)
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 09:11 AM
@GetInTheRobot if you speak to MKR again, could you ask her if she knows anything about American Hedgehog?
@GetInTheRobot because Bella says "Ok so the guy there now is the editor of the cwcki and kiwi farms and works on lolcow
Hes one of the watchmen and has known Chris for years online""
Could Espeon and AH be the same person? lol
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:14 AM
Bruh.
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 09:16 AM
lol if that was true, i would DIE
Summer05-Aug-21 09:17 AM
jesus christ if that was true lol
GetInTheRobot05-Aug-21 09:20 AM
i messaged MKR
TAH was in "the place" watchmen server "until we cleared it all out"
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:21 AM
Hmmm....
Complete longshot, but can you ask if she knows Gungann?
Or recognizes the name.
GetInTheRobot05-Aug-21 09:21 AM
"we never knew TAH's true identity"
1
"personally i think it's an account shared by multiple individuals"
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 09:21 AM
i knew it
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:22 AM
Wait.
So Psycho (i forget the whole username)
Could have been on that account.
Which is how he would have this knowledge
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 09:23 AM
Psychic Espeon?
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:23 AM
Nono
The CWCki editor
let me find his name
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 09:23 AM
American Hedgehog is one of the main admins of the cwcki
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:24 AM
Yeah but the guy on CWCki who added
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 09:24 AM
oh i know what you mean
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:24 AM
The "fact" that Bella was hired to escort Chris to Everfree
When that was NEVER said ANYWHERE
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 09:24 AM
what connects Psycho to AH?
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:24 AM
The CWCki
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 09:24 AM
well yes lol
GetInTheRobot05-Aug-21 09:25 AM
see #gungann-donotuse for answer to your Q, basalasas
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:25 AM
That's all so far, what I'm saying is if the TAH account was controlled by multiple people
That could have been one of them
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 09:25 AM
ok i understand
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:26 AM
Too many people involved in all of this tbh
GetInTheRobot05-Aug-21 09:26 AM
i feel like that it's always sunny in philadelphia meme
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 09:27 AM
i feel like that other meme with all the numbers and maths
I suspect there is a whole group who's looked at what we've done and is trying to do some counter shit
As damage control
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:30 AM
Quite likely.
Some Dude05-Aug-21 09:30 AM
I'm just hoping they've all turned on eachother at this point
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:30 AM
I mean, I did get attempted hacked.
So, someone is trying to do something.
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 09:30 AM
The fact American Hedgehog has been a ghost on the boards is sus to me, if he is more than one person, than they are busy with other things
because American Hedgehog lives on the board
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:30 AM
Wait.
Full disclosure, I did use the same burner email on Kiwi as I did for this Discord.
Fuck what if it's an admin.
Summer05-Aug-21 09:31 AM
oh shit
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 09:31 AM
Bella mentions a Kiwi admin
Summer05-Aug-21 09:31 AM
GetInTheRobot05-Aug-21 09:31 AM
can admins see your passwords?
Summer05-Aug-21 09:31 AM
i wouldn’t be surprised
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:32 AM
I didn't use the same password for both accounts.(edited)
So this would make sense.
Summer05-Aug-21 09:32 AM
ah
GetInTheRobot05-Aug-21 09:32 AM
i used the same email, different passwords
Summer05-Aug-21 09:32 AM
that’s why it was attempted and didn’t actually work
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:32 AM
They tried to use the burner email to get this account, but had the wrong password.
Summer05-Aug-21 09:32 AM
cause the passwords differed
GetInTheRobot
i used the same email, different passwords
Summer05-Aug-21 09:32 AM
same
GetInTheRobot05-Aug-21 09:32 AM
should everyone change their KF emails
Summer05-Aug-21 09:33 AM
also i hope everyone here used really strong auto generated passwords
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 09:33 AM
Null doesnt seem like someone that would let a persons passwords be exposed
you know how paranoid he is
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:34 AM
I'm going to tell the other server I suspect the hack was attempted by an admin, so they know to be careful.
They could try to hack someone else's account who doesn't use different passwords.
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 09:34 AM
does anyone know a mod on KF that they trust? to ask if a mod can see email
because as far as i know, American Hedgehog is a mod only
Summer05-Aug-21 09:35 AM
which one was the one who locked the thread
randall something or other
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 09:35 AM
Randall
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:35 AM
The one who locked the thread was in our server kek
I am 99% sure
Summer05-Aug-21 09:35 AM
maybe ask him?
GetInTheRobot05-Aug-21 09:35 AM
i think didn't someone just report the thread
and got it locked
Summer05-Aug-21 09:35 AM
oh yeah spooky reported it didn’t he
GetInTheRobot05-Aug-21 09:36 AM
yep
Summer05-Aug-21 09:36 AM
wasn’t randall also the mod who wanted to join III
Some Dude05-Aug-21 09:36 AM
If you have any info linked to the farms
Change it
and/or nuke it(edited)
Summer05-Aug-21 09:37 AM
yeah
Some Dude05-Aug-21 09:37 AM
I don't want anyone getting doxxed out of this
Summer05-Aug-21 09:37 AM
really glad i chose the name of a really popular product lol
Some Dude05-Aug-21 09:37 AM
and we are going to all attract some ire
Summer05-Aug-21 09:37 AM
yeah
Summer
wasn’t randall also the mod who wanted to join III
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:37 AM
Yes.
Some Dude05-Aug-21 09:38 AM
I say don't add anyone new to here
Summer05-Aug-21 09:38 AM
ok then he seems trustworthy enough to ask
Some Dude05-Aug-21 09:38 AM
There are already too many people as it is lol
Summer05-Aug-21 09:38 AM
yeah don’t add him
GetInTheRobot05-Aug-21 09:38 AM
taylor was the only one left i think
Summer05-Aug-21 09:38 AM
but just ask if mods can see emails
Some Dude05-Aug-21 09:38 AM
They can get your ip and emails
Summer05-Aug-21 09:38 AM
then that’s it, @Secondary Editor a mod probably did it
Some Dude05-Aug-21 09:39 AM
Supposedly only Josh can see but with that big leak 2 years ago(edited)
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 09:39 AM
then it could be American Hedgehog
because of Esp
Some Dude05-Aug-21 09:39 AM
I wouldnt trust anything
Summer05-Aug-21 09:39 AM
yeah
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:39 AM
That would explain why Espeon hasn't said anything to me.
Might have decided I was a problem.
Summer05-Aug-21 09:40 AM
really glad they weren’t able to successfully hack you
also, i assume you used a different password for the actual burner email itself right?
Some Dude05-Aug-21 09:40 AM
The reality is anyone in here can be connected to one of these groups
please keep that in mind
Summer05-Aug-21 09:40 AM
yeah
Some Dude05-Aug-21 09:41 AM
and don't reveal any personal info
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Summer05-Aug-21 09:41 AM
^^
Summer
also, i assume you used a different password for the actual burner email itself right?
Secondary Editor05-Aug-21 09:41 AM
Yeah
Summer05-Aug-21 09:42 AM
awesome
Губер05-Aug-21 09:45 AM
spooky (in the adjective sense)
Summer05-Aug-21 09:45 AM
heh
Sakura Blossom05-Aug-21 11:07 PM
TAH is only a mod for the Chris KF board
Secondary Editor06-Aug-21 02:03 AM
Realized psychonerd isn't as sus as I thought, and might actually be a good source of info.
He'd have to be approached carefully.
About his involvement with OCs on CWCki, the Bella info, and what he knows I mean
Sakura Blossom06-Aug-21 02:04 AM
hmmm if its decided he cant be trusted, we could ask Marvin
to check edit logs and the like
Marvin have AH reign on the cwcki
Secondary Editor06-Aug-21 02:06 AM
Yeah let's keep contacting him in mind, maybe tomorrow.
Though he is online now...
Fuck it I'll ask now
Sent
If he's cooperative this will answer a lot of questions
Secondary Editor06-Aug-21 02:37 AM
Out of order this comes before last image(edited)
He seems out of the loop enough that he might give something without knowing (or just know nothing)
And after his last message I sent him the screencap where Bella says American Hedgehog is in a server with her and her friends(edited)
Sakura Blossom06-Aug-21 02:42 AM
AH posts all the rumours and controversies lol
but i think good info
Secondary Editor06-Aug-21 02:44 AM
Yeah
Asking him about the AH discord account
And if it may be run by multiple people
This guy has followed the thread a while and he's minor enough within the CWCki community he might start asking questions himself(edited)
And come back to me later if he gets curious
Sakura Blossom06-Aug-21 02:46 AM
"they were asking about Esp and AH, whats going on?"
Secondary Editor06-Aug-21 02:47 AM
Yep.
And the screenshot
Is very suspicious
It implies AH has encountered most of the people involved, and they used the same Discord accounts(edited)
Sakura Blossom06-Aug-21 02:49 AM
yeah
Secondary Editor06-Aug-21 02:49 AM
Sakura Blossom06-Aug-21 02:49 AM
I just home MKR wasnt confused when talking about AH
Secondary Editor06-Aug-21 02:50 AM
She seemed pretty confident according to GGP
Maybe have GGP talk to MKR again soon
Sakura Blossom06-Aug-21 02:50 AM
I think MKR needs round 2
especially with the new info out
because to be honest, something are running on hot air
Secondary Editor06-Aug-21 02:51 AM
Yep
God how far are we going
Sakura Blossom06-Aug-21 02:51 AM
What is the AH discord name?
Secondary Editor06-Aug-21 02:51 AM
Not certain, I don't fuck around in CWCki shit
Sakura Blossom06-Aug-21 02:51 AM
i was just wondering if it would be useful to know
oh AH discord ID
Secondary Editor06-Aug-21 02:52 AM
Last message was "Thanks for your concerns."
Let's see what happens
Secondary Editor06-Aug-21 09:39 AM
Sakura Blossom06-Aug-21 09:39 AM
Doesn’t that read like one of Espeons posts lol
Secondary Editor06-Aug-21 09:54 AM
Yes.
The deadpan tone
And you said that American Hedgehog's posting style changed, right?
Sakura Blossom06-Aug-21 09:54 AM
Yeah
Look at his current posts and work back, there is a tone change
Secondary Editor06-Aug-21 09:56 AM
Eeeeyup
Did Espeon literally just take over AH instead of Null kek
What the fuck is happening
Sakura Blossom06-Aug-21 09:58 AM
Do you agree with the tone change ?
Secondary Editor06-Aug-21 09:59 AM
Yes
I sat in PMs with Espeon long enough to know how he types
Especially when he's being careful
Sakura Blossom06-Aug-21 09:59 AM
The wording
I got it straight away
But I have been looking so much into ESP lately, I don’t want to say everything is him unless Sure
Secondary Editor06-Aug-21 10:00 AM
Yeah we'll save all this for his halal
When we have more heads put together
We might just both be schizo
Sakura Blossom06-Aug-21 10:01 AM
Interesting he didn’t comment on my post yesterday calling him out, but he did to GGP
Maybe because of the post itself
Secondary Editor06-Aug-21 10:05 AM
Yep.
GetInTheRobot06-Aug-21 10:00 PM
it sounds like Espeon
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Secondary Editor14-Aug-21 04:40 PM
#hedgehog-donotuse Make sure to post all content related to this subject in the Halal version of this channel instead, we'll continue to use this channel for archival purposes, but refrain from any further discussion or archiving here if possible.
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