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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 08:47 AM
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GetInTheRobot 05-Aug-21 08:48 AM
I can confirm 10anon's latest screenshot post is in fact real. I keep close contact with this individual on a constant basis and tells me what's going on. This is 100% legit can someone tell null this or at least show him. You should've talked to @The American Hedgehog before posting this...
espeon tells ternmerc he should ahve talked to Hedgehog first before posting
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 08:49 AM
"Ok so the guy there now is the editor of the cwcki and kiwi farms and works on lolcow Hes one of the watchmen and has known Chris for years online" (edited)
notice Bella used the term watchmen
American Hedgehog who is a prolific poster on the CWC KF forum that he also a moderator for, has been all but silent since the news broke
@W.T. snacks do you have any info on The American Hedgehog?
connections to lolcow etc
because TAH has been at the front of all breaking Chris news and leaks for since
including Idea Guys
in fact i honestly believe he was a part of that group on the fringes
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 08:58 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if he worms his way in just to observe.
That's literally his whole MO
Documenting Chris.
So he probably knows a bunch of shit about a bunch of sagas, but only reveals stuff he wouldn't get questioned about personally knowing.
Which makes him no better than any of these fags, let's be honest.
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 08:59 AM
If TAH is also on lolcow, that in my mind that confirms he has in the discord with Bella (edited)
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:00 AM
Also keep in mind, they most likely poached Fiona off the CWCki discord.
Fuck for all we know TAH told Bella about her or some sick shit. Doubtful, but I'll believe anything at this point.
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:00 AM
lol i think fiona was whoring herself out enough that we dont need someone to say they told Bella about her
I think Bella saw her and thought "oh uwu kawaii, now you are mine"
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:01 AM
True true.
Went ahead and made a gungann channel
The CWCki server user that helped Bella manipulate Fiona (edited)
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:11 AM
@GetInTheRobot if you speak to MKR again, could you ask her if she knows anything about American Hedgehog?
@GetInTheRobot because Bella says "Ok so the guy there now is the editor of the cwcki and kiwi farms and works on lolcow Hes one of the watchmen and has known Chris for years online""
Could Espeon and AH be the same person? lol
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:14 AM
Bruh.
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:16 AM
lol if that was true, i would DIE
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:17 AM
jesus christ if that was true lol
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GetInTheRobot 05-Aug-21 09:20 AM
i messaged MKR
TAH was in "the place" watchmen server "until we cleared it all out"
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:21 AM
Hmmm....
Complete longshot, but can you ask if she knows Gungann?
Or recognizes the name.
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GetInTheRobot 05-Aug-21 09:21 AM
"we never knew TAH's true identity"
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"personally i think it's an account shared by multiple individuals"
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:21 AM
i knew it
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:22 AM
Wait.
So Psycho (i forget the whole username)
Could have been on that account.
Which is how he would have this knowledge
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:23 AM
Psychic Espeon?
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:23 AM
Nono
The CWCki editor
let me find his name
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:23 AM
American Hedgehog is one of the main admins of the cwcki
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:24 AM
Yeah but the guy on CWCki who added
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:24 AM
oh i know what you mean
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:24 AM
The "fact" that Bella was hired to escort Chris to Everfree
When that was NEVER said ANYWHERE
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:24 AM
what connects Psycho to AH?
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:24 AM
The CWCki
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:24 AM
well yes lol
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GetInTheRobot 05-Aug-21 09:25 AM
see #gungann-donotuse for answer to your Q, basalasas
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:25 AM
That's all so far, what I'm saying is if the TAH account was controlled by multiple people
That could have been one of them
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:25 AM
ok i understand
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:26 AM
Too many people involved in all of this tbh
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GetInTheRobot 05-Aug-21 09:26 AM
i feel like that it's always sunny in philadelphia meme
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:27 AM
i feel like that other meme with all the numbers and maths
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:27 AM
that’s all of us rn
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:28 AM
Should i reach out to some Kiwis I know and trust, and ask about American Hedgehog? or leave it
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:28 AM
hm
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Some Dude 05-Aug-21 09:28 AM
leave it
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:28 AM
ok
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Some Dude 05-Aug-21 09:28 AM
We will go back to it
there are too many potential people who knew about this
Whole will feed eachother info
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As we are doing
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:29 AM
Bella likes Naga lol
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Some Dude 05-Aug-21 09:29 AM
I suspect there is a whole group who's looked at what we've done and is trying to do some counter shit
As damage control
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:30 AM
Quite likely.
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Some Dude 05-Aug-21 09:30 AM
I'm just hoping they've all turned on eachother at this point
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:30 AM
I mean, I did get attempted hacked.
So, someone is trying to do something.
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:30 AM
The fact American Hedgehog has been a ghost on the boards is sus to me, if he is more than one person, than they are busy with other things
because American Hedgehog lives on the board
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:30 AM
Wait.
Full disclosure, I did use the same burner email on Kiwi as I did for this Discord.
Fuck what if it's an admin.
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:31 AM
oh shit
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:31 AM
Bella mentions a Kiwi admin
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:31 AM
😥
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GetInTheRobot 05-Aug-21 09:31 AM
can admins see your passwords?
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:31 AM
i wouldn’t be surprised
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:32 AM
I didn't use the same password for both accounts. (edited)
So this would make sense.
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:32 AM
ah
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GetInTheRobot 05-Aug-21 09:32 AM
i used the same email, different passwords
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:32 AM
that’s why it was attempted and didn’t actually work
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:32 AM
They tried to use the burner email to get this account, but had the wrong password.
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:32 AM
cause the passwords differed
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i used the same email, different passwords
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:32 AM
same
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GetInTheRobot 05-Aug-21 09:32 AM
should everyone change their KF emails
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:33 AM
also i hope everyone here used really strong auto generated passwords
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:33 AM
Null doesnt seem like someone that would let a persons passwords be exposed
you know how paranoid he is
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:34 AM
I'm going to tell the other server I suspect the hack was attempted by an admin, so they know to be careful.
They could try to hack someone else's account who doesn't use different passwords.
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:34 AM
does anyone know a mod on KF that they trust? to ask if a mod can see email
because as far as i know, American Hedgehog is a mod only
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:35 AM
which one was the one who locked the thread
randall something or other
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:35 AM
Randall
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:35 AM
The one who locked the thread was in our server kek
I am 99% sure
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:35 AM
maybe ask him?
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GetInTheRobot 05-Aug-21 09:35 AM
i think didn't someone just report the thread
and got it locked
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:35 AM
oh yeah spooky reported it didn’t he
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GetInTheRobot 05-Aug-21 09:36 AM
yep
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:36 AM
wasn’t randall also the mod who wanted to join III
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Some Dude 05-Aug-21 09:36 AM
If you have any info linked to the farms
Change it
and/or nuke it (edited)
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:37 AM
yeah
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Some Dude 05-Aug-21 09:37 AM
I don't want anyone getting doxxed out of this
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:37 AM
really glad i chose the name of a really popular product lol
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Some Dude 05-Aug-21 09:37 AM
and we are going to all attract some ire
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:37 AM
yeah
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wasn’t randall also the mod who wanted to join III
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:37 AM
Yes.
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Some Dude 05-Aug-21 09:38 AM
I say don't add anyone new to here
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:38 AM
ok then he seems trustworthy enough to ask
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Some Dude 05-Aug-21 09:38 AM
There are already too many people as it is lol
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:38 AM
yeah don’t add him
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GetInTheRobot 05-Aug-21 09:38 AM
taylor was the only one left i think
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:38 AM
but just ask if mods can see emails
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Some Dude 05-Aug-21 09:38 AM
They can get your ip and emails
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:38 AM
then that’s it, @Secondary Editor a mod probably did it
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Some Dude 05-Aug-21 09:39 AM
Supposedly only Josh can see but with that big leak 2 years ago (edited)
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 09:39 AM
then it could be American Hedgehog
because of Esp
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Some Dude 05-Aug-21 09:39 AM
I wouldnt trust anything
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:39 AM
yeah
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:39 AM
That would explain why Espeon hasn't said anything to me.
Might have decided I was a problem.
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:40 AM
really glad they weren’t able to successfully hack you
also, i assume you used a different password for the actual burner email itself right?
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Some Dude 05-Aug-21 09:40 AM
The reality is anyone in here can be connected to one of these groups
please keep that in mind
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:40 AM
yeah
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Some Dude 05-Aug-21 09:41 AM
and don't reveal any personal info
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:41 AM
^^
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also, i assume you used a different password for the actual burner email itself right?
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Secondary Editor 05-Aug-21 09:41 AM
Yeah
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:42 AM
awesome
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Губер 05-Aug-21 09:45 AM
spooky (in the adjective sense)
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Summer 05-Aug-21 09:45 AM
heh
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Sakura Blossom 05-Aug-21 11:07 PM
TAH is only a mod for the Chris KF board
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Secondary Editor 06-Aug-21 02:03 AM
Realized psychonerd isn't as sus as I thought, and might actually be a good source of info. He'd have to be approached carefully.
About his involvement with OCs on CWCki, the Bella info, and what he knows I mean
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Sakura Blossom 06-Aug-21 02:04 AM
hmmm if its decided he cant be trusted, we could ask Marvin
to check edit logs and the like
Marvin have AH reign on the cwcki
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Secondary Editor 06-Aug-21 02:06 AM
Yeah let's keep contacting him in mind, maybe tomorrow. Though he is online now...
Fuck it I'll ask now
Sent
If he's cooperative this will answer a lot of questions
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Secondary Editor 06-Aug-21 02:37 AM
Out of order this comes before last image (edited)
He seems out of the loop enough that he might give something without knowing (or just know nothing)
And after his last message I sent him the screencap where Bella says American Hedgehog is in a server with her and her friends (edited)
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Sakura Blossom 06-Aug-21 02:42 AM
AH posts all the rumours and controversies lol
but i think good info
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Secondary Editor 06-Aug-21 02:44 AM
Yeah
Asking him about the AH discord account
And if it may be run by multiple people
This guy has followed the thread a while and he's minor enough within the CWCki community he might start asking questions himself (edited)
And come back to me later if he gets curious
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Sakura Blossom 06-Aug-21 02:46 AM
"they were asking about Esp and AH, whats going on?"
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Secondary Editor 06-Aug-21 02:47 AM
Yep.
And the screenshot
Is very suspicious
It implies AH has encountered most of the people involved, and they used the same Discord accounts (edited)
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Sakura Blossom 06-Aug-21 02:49 AM
yeah
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Secondary Editor 06-Aug-21 02:49 AM
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Sakura Blossom 06-Aug-21 02:49 AM
I just home MKR wasnt confused when talking about AH
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Secondary Editor 06-Aug-21 02:50 AM
She seemed pretty confident according to GGP
Maybe have GGP talk to MKR again soon
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Sakura Blossom 06-Aug-21 02:50 AM
I think MKR needs round 2
especially with the new info out
because to be honest, something are running on hot air
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Secondary Editor 06-Aug-21 02:51 AM
Yep
God how far are we going
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Sakura Blossom 06-Aug-21 02:51 AM
What is the AH discord name?
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Secondary Editor 06-Aug-21 02:51 AM
Not certain, I don't fuck around in CWCki shit
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Sakura Blossom 06-Aug-21 02:51 AM
i was just wondering if it would be useful to know
oh AH discord ID
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Secondary Editor 06-Aug-21 02:52 AM
Last message was "Thanks for your concerns." Let's see what happens
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Secondary Editor 06-Aug-21 09:39 AM
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Sakura Blossom 06-Aug-21 09:39 AM
Doesn’t that read like one of Espeons posts lol
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Secondary Editor 06-Aug-21 09:54 AM
Yes.
The deadpan tone
And you said that American Hedgehog's posting style changed, right?
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Sakura Blossom 06-Aug-21 09:54 AM
Yeah
Look at his current posts and work back, there is a tone change
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Secondary Editor 06-Aug-21 09:56 AM
Eeeeyup
Did Espeon literally just take over AH instead of Null kek
What the fuck is happening
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Sakura Blossom 06-Aug-21 09:58 AM
Do you agree with the tone change ?
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Secondary Editor 06-Aug-21 09:59 AM
Yes
I sat in PMs with Espeon long enough to know how he types
Especially when he's being careful
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Sakura Blossom 06-Aug-21 09:59 AM
The wording
I got it straight away
But I have been looking so much into ESP lately, I don’t want to say everything is him unless Sure
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Secondary Editor 06-Aug-21 10:00 AM
Yeah we'll save all this for his halal
When we have more heads put together
We might just both be schizo
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Sakura Blossom 06-Aug-21 10:01 AM
Interesting he didn’t comment on my post yesterday calling him out, but he did to GGP
Maybe because of the post itself
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Secondary Editor 06-Aug-21 10:05 AM
Yep.
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GetInTheRobot 06-Aug-21 10:00 PM
it sounds like Espeon
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Secondary Editor 14-Aug-21 04:40 PM
#hedgehog-donotuse Make sure to post all content related to this subject in the Halal version of this channel instead, we'll continue to use this channel for archival purposes, but refrain from any further discussion or archiving here if possible.
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